From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RXAsM-0007I4-Sr for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 12:08:59 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 889F321C0C9; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 12:08:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f53.google.com (mail-bw0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9DB21C066 for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 12:07:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzu5 with SMTP id zu5so4421245bkb.40 for ; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 04:07:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=N777ZzTcHmer9x1rRQaLfM1XxKL22HKd2GOCK/IvVUY=; b=R8zn7TujR6CdHXuywKdNlSRZa7vQq3HXE72Pfn8b3K3BF3tRioeXC5vYnp7lo9csgh TnAlrFUYx6FG1TbBQRmmSdbfLKksVZkf2lvX8pfD4BZdBdRslpof7d25yL9OMg+mVESc ZGR/IsyrDMTbXIPqD2NQ/Cjr5hmlRgB6Jd2qM= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.156.220 with SMTP id y28mr2581079bkw.22.1323000475475; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 04:07:55 -0800 (PST) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.121.2 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 04:07:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EDB604E.5050505@gentoo.org> References: <20111204045000.244efea3@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> <201112040021.42992.vapier@gentoo.org> <4EDB604E.5050505@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 07:07:55 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: LZnEAOYgaL8jfoFy6BUIOM4rZUk Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] So now that we have --quiet-build as default, can we talk about a forced LC_ALL=C again? From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 3c120ba2-eca4-4b50-b3f0-f02484907b39 X-Archives-Hash: 96a9321377cf59501ddddc45e55264d1 2011/12/4 Ch=C3=AD-Thanh Christopher Nguy=E1=BB=85n : > I too think it is sufficient to have > LC_MESSAGES=3DC > in the default make.conf (or somewhere else where the user can easily > change it), with a comment to leave it like this for build.log when > reporting bugs. ++ Or if that goes too far have it commented out but still in the file - so that users can just remove one character to implement it. This would need to be accompanied by instructions in Bugzilla so that the wranglers don't need to post them over and over again. Users should be able to work in their native languages on their own PCs (Gentoo is about choice) - the key is just to try to prevent these kinds of issues in the first place. We already have notes about attaching build.log - all we need to do is include the words "with LC_MESSAGES=3DC to ensure logs are in English" in the note. Rich