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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
Cc: "axs@gentoo.org" <axs@gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 15:27:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGfcS_kGYomMY3XSB5W23GRp6n3zoZY1DtV0+9Nzo4Z3CbAdrw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130821165657.6ffec334@TOMWIJ-GENTOO>

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Tom Wijsman <TomWij@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> That doesn't make it a special case here, imo; especially not, since
> we are designing and implementing ebuilds that _build_ the kernel.
> Whether it provides the sources, or build it; what does that matter?

Yes and no.  I don't think the kernel needs a separate
QA/stabilization policy per-se.

However, it probably isn't a good barometer of the state of the tree.
On the one hand, it is probably one of the most popular and
looked-after packages in the tree.  On the other hand it has releases
with both high frequency and impact.  There really isn't a single FOSS
project like the Linux kernel anywhere.

So this isn't about making up different rules for the kernel.  The
issue is more that I wouldn't use the kernel as my main example of the
state of the tree.  I'm not sure it even makes sense to have single
examples so much as categories.

It might be interesting to see how up-to-date stable packages are when
looking at system vs non-system (glibc vs mplayer), package popularity
(firefox vs baobab), desktop vs server (vlc vs mysql), and so on.  I
suspect though that it has as much to do with maintainer philosophy as
the package itself - some maintainers pay more attention to stable.

Rich


  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-21 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-20 18:19 [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies William Hubbs
2013-08-20 18:28 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-08-20 19:31   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-21  6:51     ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka
2013-08-21  8:10       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-21  8:23         ` Michael Palimaka
2013-08-21  8:51           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-20 19:37   ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2013-08-20 19:48     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-21  7:54       ` Sergey Popov
2013-08-21  8:08         ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka
2013-08-21  8:22           ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-21  8:57             ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-21 11:27               ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-21  8:13         ` [gentoo-dev] " Tom Wijsman
2013-08-21  8:32           ` Sergey Popov
2013-08-21  9:13             ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-21  9:54               ` Sergey Popov
2013-08-21 10:36                 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-21 12:16                   ` Sergey Popov
2013-08-21 12:25                     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-21 12:43                       ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-31 16:37               ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-08-31 17:29                 ` How to find a mentor, WAS: " Jeroen Roovers
2013-08-31 18:44                   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-31 21:57                   ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-08-31 18:27                 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-31 18:45                 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-31 19:57                   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-31 21:59                     ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-09-01 10:30                       ` Thomas Sachau
2013-09-01 10:42                         ` hasufell
2013-09-01 11:58                           ` Markos Chandras
2013-08-21  7:52   ` Sergey Popov
2013-08-20 18:29 ` Wyatt Epp
2013-08-20 18:32   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-08-20 18:45   ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2013-08-20 19:45     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-20 19:42   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-21  7:57     ` Sergey Popov
2013-08-21  8:17       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-21  8:21         ` Sergey Popov
2013-08-21  9:16           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-21 11:19             ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-21  9:17       ` Manuel Rüger
2013-08-21  9:50         ` Sergey Popov
2013-08-21 10:45           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-21 13:38           ` Wyatt Epp
2013-08-21 16:03             ` Sergey Popov
2013-08-20 19:24 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-20 19:41   ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-20 20:06     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-21  8:07       ` Sergey Popov
2013-08-21  8:25         ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-21  8:46           ` Sergey Popov
2013-08-21  9:28             ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-21  9:42               ` Sergey Popov
2013-08-21 10:29                 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-21 12:22                   ` Sergey Popov
2013-08-21 12:36                     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-21 14:27                       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-08-21 14:56                         ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-21 19:27                           ` Rich Freeman [this message]
2013-08-21 15:02                         ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-20 20:00   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-20 20:22     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-21  8:09     ` Sergey Popov
2013-08-21  7:04   ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka
2013-08-21  8:30     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-21  9:05       ` Michael Palimaka
2013-08-20 20:12 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Orlitzky
2013-08-20 21:25   ` Walter Dnes
2013-08-21  4:35   ` Ben de Groot
2013-08-21 11:31     ` Michael Orlitzky
2013-08-21  4:51   ` [gentoo-dev] " Jonathan Callen
2013-08-30 19:17   ` [gentoo-dev] " Hans de Graaff
2013-08-20 20:16 ` hasufell
2013-08-20 21:05   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-20 21:54     ` Wyatt Epp
2013-08-21 10:13     ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka
2013-08-21 10:31       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-21 10:43         ` Michael Palimaka
2013-08-20 21:03 ` [gentoo-dev] " Andreas K. Huettel
2013-08-21  0:42   ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-21  1:54     ` Doug Goldstein
2013-08-21  6:53       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-21  8:39     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-21  8:49       ` Sergey Popov
2013-08-21  9:31         ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-21  9:18       ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-08-21 12:13       ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-21  3:23 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2013-08-21  6:56 ` joshua saddler
     [not found] <20130820222554.4e566779@TOMWIJ-GENTOO>
2013-08-21  6:22 ` Alan McKinnon

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