From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RtjP0-0004Ws-Rw for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 17:27:56 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5AD4DE06FE; Sat, 4 Feb 2012 17:27:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f53.google.com (mail-bk0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1732FE0686 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 2012 17:27:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bke11 with SMTP id 11so4265032bke.40 for ; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 09:27:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ctpv/EtSWdAkIfNqICJnZ5tdCoMlJQCIRkcsoOYZYY4=; b=YT3HRGM0jlA1hR+RBdYjcqlYD0Ll0txvep+XlGpequs1xiO6qfnTdSFFVwZLJbUOm6 ha+aeyAcQqgfyg0RHAWq5+cG0QN4CnUDDIjDXLR+WIONjNVLUGfxsxnuDtsLU9vQEEz7 ct85rD/0lzq1nX6BO3n2jnyhKd54+YhsQGlEQ= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.129.130 with SMTP id hi2mr5488963bkc.98.1328376432592; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 09:27:12 -0800 (PST) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.53.138 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Feb 2012 09:27:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20120101015947.GA9914@linux1> Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 12:27:12 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ErF5x0WqCHGzl7YKcCpgOOrIonU Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: f313791b-8442-454e-afd2-4553b04c2e5a X-Archives-Hash: dd9b290ae53898780868dca8262b1898 On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: > So this setup is working and boots fine here. We might want to recomend > dracut as initrd solution in case of separate usr. I think it still needs some work, but it is getting there. I documented my own solution at: http://rich0gentoo.wordpress.com/2012/01/21/a-quick-dracut-module/ For less-complex setups dracut as-is probably would work, but then again, for most less-complex setups you don't need an initramfs anyway. In any case, it could still use more documentation, and it needs to be integrated into any howtos that pertain to using RAID/LVM/etc, and perhaps even the handbook (perhaps just as a warning that more exotic partitioning schemes potentially require it). I think all that really needs to be in place before we move any further down this road (such as with the most recent udev versions/etc). On the other hand, anybody who has /usr running on lvm/etc is not what I'd consider a casual user. As long as we give them enough info to figure things out we don't need to go overboard with the hand-holding. Some news items to alert the user to what is coming before they go updating udev/etc would be a bare minimum though - at least give them a chance to burn a rescue CD or something. Rich