From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BC21384B4 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 15:31:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D84A21C017; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 15:31:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-f174.google.com (mail-ig0-f174.google.com [209.85.213.174]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B562521C00D for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 15:31:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ig0-f174.google.com with SMTP id xm8so53587034igb.1 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 07:31:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=oDk5osqRTpdYiyzz1HpFa0EP8s9hy5fIxCRqE8L2o9g=; b=hrU+xDIyPL9UtQpvytujcnIT0uG3zZxgX8JhlGf+2IiqTiSulTQOWkIeHnKiapTmSr 0wInM/E+gZM+T2sUgA5E/l/5lZv3oCMdfY7CumgYc5LE6HCY5GbkF8n9lnkBsLFZtO9B UKxZAGMsow19Y2iKFf0k0tq+WCDVuDH9XAtdnwcQ5Z8DTOLcK8YqWL90mAVkZgM5V+SX T7DAn4XtAdQQrgywi0gMZD3/0UTb3vfDx0ZdW9uAy0+sWFtSNFunxSi0MIAXjQ7+j9Hg gtUrWTt09kQSATM4+mNSvW2pYBxH/xBckKi9lLi7IXjd6qTCYBH1/1rWOQ37Dejvbovr dS/g== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.27.4 with SMTP id b4mr43323915iob.17.1450279868355; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 07:31:08 -0800 (PST) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.79.38.210 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 07:31:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <56716CFB.4030307@gentoo.org> References: <20151211153926.GA6071@linux1> <22123.11359.157821.93633@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20151211213748.GA31218@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> <20151211141630.618f4678@gentoo.org> <20151215050507.GK11489@vapier.lan> <20151215153136.GA5978@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> <20151215192422.GC11489@vapier.lan> <20151215193717.GA6510@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> <56714E5C.3030203@gentoo.org> <56716CFB.4030307@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 10:31:08 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ZlpZ8o8TbVjzko6t5HedLUqhmvk Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: converting copyright/license information in OpenRC From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: c08978ab-c274-468c-8c24-b8698c93409e X-Archives-Hash: cc3de675a5407ac68ff224ca431a7b37 On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 16/12/15 13:39, Rich Freeman wrote: >> I don't see how this is dishonest. > You answered this yourself, > >> They'll just be credited side-by-side with everybody else in once >> place. How is this dishonest? I see how it is less granular in one particular format. All the current OpenRC authors will be credited. The granular details of their contributions will still be present in git, even if it is hard to access. We just won't credit them in the individual file they contributed to. Is there some practical situation where you see this as being disadvantageous to a contributor? If I'm an employer looking to hire somebody, knowing they contributed to openrc is probably as useful to knowing they contributed to /lib64/rc/bin/service_starting. If I REALLY care about the specific nature of their contributions, I'm going to care what their actual commits were, and for that matter if they were of a high quality. It seems like the current system is an intermediate level of detail that doesn't seem useful, just cumbersome (in the opinion of the maintainers - it isn't like I have to maintain this stuff). The other side of this is that you could argue that the openrc maintainers might be able to just save themselves some headaches and not host this stuff on Gentoo infra, and then they can just do whatever they want. It isn't like we tell the sysvinit maintainers how to manage their code, and it isn't like Gentoo is the only distro that uses openrc. -- Rich