From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users
Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 17:38:23 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGfcS_k84c5jmk3ZT=kx-zbqwPydWfY3X09cyOoU+x_nbV4yyA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130511185547.02fb4082@sera-20.lan>
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Ralph Sennhauser <sera@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Adopting a package to distribution specifics is perfectly valid. But
> here it's about adding functionality to a package that wasn't there
> before. The usual reaction in such situations is to tell users to bug
> upstream about it first.
Adding an init.d script is hardly adding functionality - it is merely
making the package functional at all.
> If an upstream bug is filed and upstream says fuck off there is still a
> bug report which would meet the requirement. Maybe some other distro
> even filed the bug already for us.
I agree that it is a good practice, but it isn't a requirement. We
don't even require package maintainers to submit bugfix patches
upstream, let alone init scripts. Maintainers should certainly be
encouraged to do so, but it seems like we have enough trouble
following rules like "don't touch packages you don't maintain, fail to
test them, and end up breaking them."
Rich
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-11 21:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 167+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-01 10:04 [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-01 10:50 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-01 11:00 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-01 13:13 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-02 2:49 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-01 13:36 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-01 13:54 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-05-01 14:14 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-01 18:52 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-05-01 21:40 ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Stuge
2013-05-01 22:32 ` Matt Turner
2013-05-02 2:11 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-02 2:41 ` Alex Xu
2013-05-01 14:20 ` [gentoo-dev] " Matthew Thode
2013-05-01 14:22 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-01 14:52 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-01 19:52 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2013-05-01 20:32 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-01 21:14 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-02 3:18 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-02 4:26 ` Kent Fredric
2013-05-02 5:42 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-02 18:05 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-02 18:13 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-02 19:01 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-02 19:15 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-02 19:30 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-02 19:39 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-02 20:25 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-02 20:27 ` Kent Fredric
2013-05-02 22:55 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-02 23:07 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-02 22:54 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-04 10:42 ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato
2013-05-04 12:54 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-05 11:57 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-04 13:05 ` [gentoo-dev] " Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-04 13:12 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-05 7:07 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-04 16:12 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-05 7:11 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-07 20:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-08 15:26 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ben de Groot
2013-05-08 15:39 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-08 15:49 ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-08 15:53 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-08 16:06 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-08 16:34 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-08 16:27 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-08 17:57 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-08 18:19 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-09 1:48 ` Walter Dnes
2013-05-09 2:01 ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-05-09 9:56 ` Anthony G. Basile
2013-05-09 16:44 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-09 16:53 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-09 17:01 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-08 15:39 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-08 15:49 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-08 16:06 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-08 16:14 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-08 16:58 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-08 16:21 ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-08 17:01 ` Arun Raghavan
2013-05-09 2:18 ` Walter Dnes
2013-05-09 3:07 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-09 11:00 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-08 17:07 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-08 18:24 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-08 15:52 ` Michael Mol
2013-05-08 16:59 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-08 17:08 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-08 17:18 ` Michael Mol
2013-05-08 17:32 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-08 17:37 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-10 4:50 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-05-10 7:45 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ralph Sennhauser
2013-05-10 10:09 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-11 16:55 ` Ralph Sennhauser
2013-05-11 21:38 ` Rich Freeman [this message]
2013-05-14 8:41 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-15 12:17 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-15 13:41 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-15 14:01 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-16 2:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-15 14:08 ` [gentoo-dev] " Pacho Ramos
2013-05-16 14:02 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-15 14:16 ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-15 15:00 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-16 0:27 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-16 1:28 ` Matthew Thode
2013-05-16 6:58 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-15 15:03 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-15 15:10 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-15 16:59 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-15 17:25 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-15 18:11 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-15 19:02 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-15 19:05 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-15 20:56 ` Alexander Berntsen
2013-05-15 21:01 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-15 23:56 ` Matthew Thode
2013-05-16 0:50 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-15 17:26 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-16 5:20 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-15 18:18 ` waltdnes
2013-05-15 22:38 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-15 21:07 ` waltdnes
2013-05-16 1:20 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-16 1:31 ` Matthew Thode
2013-05-17 0:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-05-18 3:45 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-18 9:41 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-18 17:02 ` Walter Dnes
2013-05-18 17:38 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-05-18 17:47 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-18 19:23 ` Carlos Silva
2013-05-19 12:59 ` Michael Mol
2013-05-19 13:23 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-05-19 14:04 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-05-19 14:34 ` Peter Stuge
2013-05-19 18:02 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-19 18:05 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-21 3:03 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-05-21 3:34 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-21 13:17 ` Michael Mol
2013-05-22 21:39 ` Re: " Daniel Campbell
2013-05-22 22:39 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-23 6:06 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-05-23 6:41 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-23 8:02 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-05-23 9:46 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-23 19:19 ` Michael Orlitzky
2013-05-21 4:45 ` Duncan
2013-05-21 13:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-21 13:57 ` Michael Mol
2013-05-21 14:02 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-21 14:35 ` Michael Mol
2013-05-21 21:37 ` Duncan
2013-05-21 22:52 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-22 3:06 ` Duncan
2013-05-22 8:46 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-22 15:19 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-22 15:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-23 5:30 ` Duncan
2013-05-23 6:57 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-23 7:12 ` Duncan
2013-05-21 7:03 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-05-21 7:10 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-22 15:21 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-22 18:32 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-22 18:42 ` Zac Medico
2013-05-22 19:17 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-22 23:38 ` Walter Dnes
2013-05-24 6:32 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-05-24 6:48 ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-05-21 10:09 ` Albert Hopkins
2013-05-21 10:22 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-24 6:26 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-05-19 3:36 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-21 12:25 ` [gentoo-dev] TLDNR; " Steven J. Long
2013-05-16 2:30 ` Re: [gentoo-dev] " Daniel Campbell
2013-06-07 11:52 ` Olav Vitters
2013-06-07 12:04 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-07 12:24 ` Olav Vitters
2013-06-07 12:34 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-07 14:57 ` Olav Vitters
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