From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-dev+bounces-83598-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89BDD1382C5 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 13:11:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BAF0EE0A97; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 13:11:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pf0-x22e.google.com (mail-pf0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5600EE0A7C for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 13:11:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pf0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id e11so283817pff.6 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 05:11:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=M4dyQOwiWRiyDpg061U+wyPtHnHHsg4j5vTL3sJUSUA=; b=MCe5b0BBzVPGWXzLosPe3bqSfEF2zRGnTG2/4euZrq261AqijJYA/Sq8oeefMgnbxn CWC0TxuHoR3TH0aR9FVsB6vJBCXPTpZJrTvrQPa5SDPAVOqbsJhAuuSz4pnjtnXrqAGK UUDYoMaUFlWTrC9u8XTFkOh27XkX8rTXGrjEthMhhEOrX/EbbAWrmZboIT/Lb8Z84fUJ JcaXzIlL4f4MqFjMAi5pez7BcktGyt5UpwDhJ0clqQKP3TabSF/OXGMrgekmqCBmfthH 72ZIVQNrEsxy0v847JN90TENyL5ETqZo8yTA/OQPkWulXiW99DPAfkIu+yoexe8GjRuR pafA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=M4dyQOwiWRiyDpg061U+wyPtHnHHsg4j5vTL3sJUSUA=; b=B1DPtyv4UbD+T+5FwPY9Bgcz3P1fm40fUSERzib/tLY/crBrt7fxGjaoX6tk2s07Bp Nbp/j1jQUeOJVWBuSnoSsUyH3pYwW/Jt3tPS///++FsmcoI2+MhQbDmca3+5XJFP6VpK C9wsjOQDfYvW7DrwD5bPv+5p2AaoILUO67F73BemqAHCwKUAR7RW8fpjLkl8dBDVNNBB QlfXW4IYkEjCB6jLS9trRDU5beHPY8WcHXGjQI6zniVW1Een9jpTqwlkdyVYHd/gjqzR GyHc1YR8YNyosqScqkpmZCPbMvkdkUEG3zwQgU3hCTAYXMJMBofwA+3a42/GkNF+TpZB daHg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKwxyteTu0DJAdgDCJsVcgL2uhJ7N++uInPwC8smbfeGlEZfVwCOHd6H tj6hz5bFpjPS1GnyDrTZWTwyVKowP49s9kGPwwKvg+N0 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x2279n8uEPjARcetvLn3zBGhpQV3DiFQN0NqywG1o1LGNPzP/MyHAHtGXiHJC1mtB1UrNqmWG3BWENMzNQGMPU38= X-Received: by 10.98.217.135 with SMTP id b7mr10299149pfl.239.1516713058839; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 05:10:58 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.100.134.1 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 05:10:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <a1a8cbe2-b0ef-3fb2-07fc-149c099211c9@gentoo.org> References: <a161e211-df5b-6759-6c12-a7b1beef2ff1@gentoo.org> <1710293.ao4jWK1sT1@pinacolada> <a1a8cbe2-b0ef-3fb2-07fc-149c099211c9@gentoo.org> From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 08:10:57 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: kVsebyp7O7QUypza-A82tS7581c Message-ID: <CAGfcS_k21pJszHjNYK33PXrFDO_r3FQEKrKaMtRsWgAsWCQSbw@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: News Item: Portage Dynamic Deps To: gentoo-dev <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: 29530cf0-0897-484b-82f6-dda647a215dc X-Archives-Hash: cd0e22a34bf323b697a8f425ce864988 On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 7:40 AM, Michael Palimaka <kensington@gentoo.org> wrote: > On 01/22/2018 09:28 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >> Am Montag, 22. Januar 2018, 08:01:08 CET schrieb Zac Medico: >>> >>> According to Gentoo policy, future ebuild dependency changes need to be >>> accompanied by a revision bump in order to trigger rebuilds for users. >>> Therefore, you should only need to use --changed-deps=y for a single >>> deep @world update. After that, if you encounter installed packages with >>> outdated dependencies in a future deep @world update, then you should >>> report it as a bug. >> >> Did you come up with a solution how to handle eclass-generated dependency >> changes then? > > No. > > Bug #641346 was filed for clarification about this, but it just got > closed without answering the question or consulting anyone. >From the bug: "I don't see the need for anything further before the default behavior can be changed in portage, I'm all for it matching PMS behavior." (More details in the comment.) The question was "I would like to ask Council to state more precisely what needs to be specifically documented before we can stop enabling dynamic-deps in Portage by default." So, the answer to the question appears to be "nothing." That might not be an answer that you like, but it is an answer. I can't vouch for who was or wasn't consulted before it was given. -- Rich