From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-48585-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1RPbT6-0004CS-VL for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:55:37 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C5FD21C04A; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:55:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f53.google.com (mail-bw0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD0621C034 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:54:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkaq10 with SMTP id q10so6349401bka.40 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:54:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=S6KmJwyT+ZZPtJYMhdebKVZA2tx9LUw8/kmYDT3F85k=; b=MIaLiiY5dh+V25m6JMMzgBEnixLND8VreHeL6LNeRW/+fWQx+axxLxRNpGacSqMiif r1AOYqoaaK5pCSggf6Mt0dOwax7G+WRcY6LoehjxMhzkmqEtdN7H+O6mvRMhI3AAWI5T jDyI7+WqhXsoviMrFTDeXgKy8S4wnM1l4JEEQ= Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.138.17 with SMTP id iq17mr7864332bkc.118.1321196079234; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:54:39 -0800 (PST) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.65.195 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:54:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EBFCD5D.3080807@gentoo.org> References: <4EB4FA98.3080201@gentoo.org> <4EBD42EE.4060104@gentoo.org> <4EBEF208.5060500@gentoo.org> <201111121840.16686.vapier@gentoo.org> <4EBFBA75.3030500@gentoo.org> <1321188262-sup-4513@raeviah> <4EBFCD5D.3080807@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:54:39 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: lO167lbMuuJApDW_rx5deqcx4LQ Message-ID: <CAGfcS_=z34tqaD3A4X-hr1hm+Urb+CLC40NYq1cLCkSWg_Hr+Q@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] have portage be quiet by default From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: 0316207b-9a13-46fb-9962-9f18e7a927e9 X-Archives-Hash: b5aca3b65fe2b0666da87ced969ca3b0 On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Thomas Sachau <tommy@gentoo.org> wrote: > You expect people to manually check the build.log just to see, where it hangs? I prefer checking the > console, there i can see it directly and dont have to check for the path of the current build.log > and then have to additionally open it manually. I do think this is a fair point. It is pretty common practice in tasks that are expected to take a long time to have some kind of progress indicator. Even if it just means echoing a period every 10 seconds, or every 10 files, or whatever, it would be a nice way to tell that something is happening. I think we used to have a spinner, which would also work, especially if it is somehow tied to forward progress on the build.. Most binary distros don't do this, but it doesn't ever take them 15 minutes to install one package. Another useful thing might be to print out the path of the build logs each time a package starts building. That would make tailing a log of interest easier than hunting through them all. Rich