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Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting
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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
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On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov <mva@mva.name> wrote:
> So, I really hope, that Gentoo will not obey RedHat's will and will not
> force SystemD as default init system, and not drop pretty OpenRC to
> trash. And I hope, that ryao's eudev will be most used (if not default)
> variant of udev, since I'm sad with last vanilla udev functionality
> "downgrades".
I'm sure all of the options will be offered as options for as long as
people care to take care of them. With the number of anti-systemd
posts on -dev I don't see openrc going away anytime soon.
I'm sure the default will stay as it is unless a substantial majority
want it otherwise - we can't go flipping that every time the latest
whatever comes along.
And frankly, I could care less what it is since I can change it. If I
wanted to be rigidly bound by defaults there are a lot of distros
easier to maintain than Gentoo. iOS comes to mind. :)
I run OpenRC on my main box, and systemd on a VM hosted within it. I
wouldn't be surprised if I move to systemd some day as my experience
with it has been a good one, but I'll use the tools I think are best
for the problem at hand, and not what somebody else chooses for me,
and I'll be the last to force a choice on anybody else. That said,
Gentoo can only offer the options that devs step up and maintain, so
if you care greatly about something start writing patches.
That is my biggest concern over a lot of this mess - and Greg KH did a
good job putting it into words in the six-month old thread that was
just resurrected. Lennart et al only have the power you give to them
- anybody can fork at any time or keep an old project going. If you
don't like Gnome 3 then start writing code for Gnome 2. This is all
FREE software, and it only exists when people take the time to write
it. If nobody bothers to maintain the alternatives, then I guess
collectively we're going to be stuck with whatever people take the
time to write.
So, feel free to offer advice/comments/etc. However, let's keep the
tone civil. Unless you're their employer, the guys writing the
software you don't like owe you precisely nothing.
Rich