From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56321381F3 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:11:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 360FAE09C1; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:11:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vb0-f47.google.com (mail-vb0-f47.google.com [209.85.212.47]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49D53E094E for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:11:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f47.google.com with SMTP id x14so8033712vbb.34 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 04:11:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=om+k2MuDo6dZhSJ1kEQJy5FaFU9rsf62HQ8E+/tLRf4=; b=pPI0Fyq8uGLmQuxFsjMbZkfhDcv6SXkwgb6ZBiJncv9sbUZajECbz1x2bMsxRt7F1J ZL8Zw2+BBw5H2yohGA0kXvTjjQbLMNwclj1qhMbksRjePWT2RtQVOQ4HOROIx35aM33A f/h/HmZ1szYt45kjK3lCcRFt+oprFWbOlMpj0/IttAQaffVnY9o0xGJcBIREGyc7O/PG uvWMIUOTbr6vmzy8BRDB9G91g/ZC3Fi57VrurzrG1A9QRWqWCRVkcoB3CV27JXkZbC5P MDogJV/sL5PIBLiIdkgm9HugONTv3vY2td+RK1QQ9Z293baVFx0MFah1XKcDy6wVW8W2 G/Ww== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.69.65 with SMTP id c1mr10991205veu.88.1372072277305; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 04:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.52.180.98 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 04:11:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <51C7D073.3010703@smash-net.org> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 07:11:17 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: oT347FYpB1rJXd51KhNgZZibtho Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: e0f73cd8-b0b7-4d04-81ac-05198065851e X-Archives-Hash: b39daad83e57b02f7cb037f4773ec2f8 On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 4:14 AM, Diego Elio Petten=F2 wrote: > And unlike IRC meetings, you can cannot multitask, say making your dinner > while discussing this or that feature. Honestly, that bit is a two-edged sword. I was just musing with the Trustees yesterday how it seems the meetings take forever to really just hit a few items. I think much is due to distraction (and I'm probably as guilty as anyone). That said, it is also helpful that I can still attend family functions or whatever and connect via mobile to a meeting - I'd definitely need to excuse myself if we were using audio/video. In my experience well-done videoconf works well for meetings, though I haven't tried Google Hangouts for anything serious so I can't vouch for that - low latency would be the most important attribute so that people aren't stepping all over each other. It does require focus to come across professionally. Since not coming across professionally in my workplace is just an invitation to get fired that isn't really a problem. Now, language CAN be a problem in audio or videoconf - generally in my workplace people speak English reasonably well, but I've seen that become a challenge in anything other than written or non-1:1 conversation. I think our main meeting challenge boils down to timezones and being international. I can't say I'd want to have an international videoconf at work because inevitably it would mean having to dress up and be in a room that looked nice at 6AM or 10PM. For gentoo that matters slightly less, but only to a degree. The bigger issue is that meetings end up being inconvenient for many just due to their timing - maybe one person lucks out and has it at the start/end of the day, but for me they end up being middle-of-the-afternoon which has a tendency to kill the day if on a weekend, and if on a weekday could conflict with work. However, I think it is still a good idea. Perhaps they shouldn't be used as a regular way to meet, but on occasion to try to re-capture the personal element. I for one have never met another Gentoo developer in the flesh - and only a few users. It would be nice to actually talk with one... :) Rich