From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1361E1384B4 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2015 17:32:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5995B21C053; Sun, 1 Nov 2015 17:31:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-f182.google.com (mail-ig0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A33A21C00E for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2015 17:31:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igpw7 with SMTP id w7so36449759igp.1 for ; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 09:31:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=vy9CK02fGfOavkPxdKyPJjx/B+Q0Lysf+/ikpn3wtE8=; b=F/6VQlpMrXZCYYJ2lTCKJWYMIhws61B4MwC0CkrFR2wcljvs+FQO71LGnCNsp8EqXh Hlrztw++uHjvFrEKmDM5EZ2/xma9lEU3pw2UQn9CGq9JeAL91XCOYIvV/hM648am9GkT trGPwk/aFrhTNLkYEoby8QIQQ2G1YgE8G70XIF1yTFlP1cX203H7ucdhVZLi6wVLGBLz DJTsAzk/Fi7NK6wPA05sult0LDSz2ip0AJ2My7NzPPJ7AgqZydBtznb6GdNRkaqaez6w fkhPGb/+6rRvg2ZhQ0d7Po2e1c/FXpPDLs/zgLJle0QWE0NEigKID0iHTqrhfCf0ihLF Zy9Q== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.70.40 with SMTP id j8mr7228222igu.70.1446399110875; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 09:31:50 -0800 (PST) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.79.118.215 with HTTP; Sun, 1 Nov 2015 09:31:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <5636029F.1020304@gentoo.org> <5636127B.10102@gentoo.org> <56361381.9070609@gentoo.org> <56361493.9020606@gentoo.org> <20151101144719.223ec1f9@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 12:31:50 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: kFVOhO-y2jrkwL0cIG9VhHM_INI Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ChangeLog From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 8f178c73-2f46-4907-833a-21e15e076c6f X-Archives-Hash: ed0a9e2ab2788a8f03971d403483e26c On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Martin Vaeth wrote: > Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> What discussion or decision is necessary? >> What is needed is for those who want changelogs >> to fix the bug > > The bug can only be fixed by somebody who knows > the details how the rsync mirrors are set up. And that is really the bigger problem here. I think we really need to minimize dependency on stuff that only a few people have access to, since they're overworked. I'd certainly encourage somebody to offer up a fixed rsync server. While you're at it, a gitlab/whatever server so that we don't have to keep arguing over github would also be nice. I'd really like to see our infrastructure get to a point where it is all published FOSS minus maybe a few authentication tokens so that anybody can just fork it on demand. Even though we'd probably still want the officially-designated servers it would make it far easier for others to contribute if they could actually test it all out. Authentication could use openid or whatever so that a clone could be a first-class alternative. In any case though, this isn't some vast conspiracy to get rid of Changelogs. More likely there are only a few people who can fix them, and they simply haven't gotten around to it. -- Rich