From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F44138A1F for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2014 14:52:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 57D60E0E98; Mon, 27 Jan 2014 14:52:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-f44.google.com (mail-qa0-f44.google.com [209.85.216.44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C89FE0C26 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2014 14:52:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id w5so7261741qac.17 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2014 06:52:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=xZz/Ocp7sd6y4UFE7WqDNEH57TDw+ji4GxdYsPyGm98=; b=sfKBExzBvQKqr4UF35p50qqibr0SiUP4n+SFla1QNApmkjtUjTA0FEvmYJaV2e4LZ+ KZFKFQQbX2Ca5U7WoOpFGT7WA6sqzOGXMn41RMinKcmmBQMizutS2N/OteN6Mz833G8+ WHyY9NHYn9Tsm6QnRb+J1WHccgry3sdyQaciWRXv4VQuMG+bslD6Mmw8wDasSje06KUw KcoeE1TmmCRnD511KPKk8j1P5SZ8q8WDruUQtDwtXFyNauBaMaKPlOrQyQx+n1zSeFBL hffBtgFWvg+vBcWOEMNeGFEKs99n/GjGS16WBMIyPYMuOjRlAnqOHrQ+Vuo4pufEAWyp wClA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.74.129 with SMTP id u1mr2864080qaj.49.1390834338538; Mon, 27 Jan 2014 06:52:18 -0800 (PST) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.49.233 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jan 2014 06:52:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1390808491.24681.46.camel@oswin.hackershack.net> References: <20140119143157.72fc0e91@kruskal.home.chead.ca> <20140120014713.2cafc257@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20140123181242.GA17827@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> <20140123201333.71e52bfc@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20140124104605.GA19957@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> <20140124192641.5677cc51@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20140126045302.14342.qmail@stuge.se> <20140126185644.8251.qmail@stuge.se> <1390808491.24681.46.camel@oswin.hackershack.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 09:52:18 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b45yFBZx9_JZTWLRTWt_VXeFkFE Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: 94ec3e6d-8abf-4c65-8a55-bd3ff1bdaefa X-Archives-Hash: ea4c9a62de103141cc28c510f9e4f010 On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 2:41 AM, Steev Klimaszewski wrote: > It's not necessarily the STABLEREQs stopping, some of the issues are (at > least on some arches!) that some of the unstable software doesn't quite > work properly anymore, and we are failing at communicating. And in > those cases, we on the arch teams should definitely be pointing this > out, and filing bugs so that the issues can be sorted. Well, if the package or some version of it doesn't work at all, you can always mask it on the arch or drop keywords. The arch team doesn't need permission to do this stuff - the keywords and profiles really "belong" to the arch team, and we just allow maintainers to do their best job with them to make the job of the arch team easier. Obviously if you actually want the problem fixed that requires bugs/etc. But you don't need a bug to drop a keyword and at least make it clear that the package doesn't work. Rich