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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: eclass/
Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 21:04:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGfcS_=_KnncZU5BHcWUy_zTEvxp1Y2Y7MSqtS56tsjG+fG0sA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1556568.JVTqaLWHPB@localhost>

On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 8:23 PM, Aaron Bauman <bman@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Sunday, May 15, 2016 12:48:12 AM JST Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 May 2016 08:40:39 +0900
>>
>> Aaron Bauman <bman@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> > Please enlighten me as to what was impolite here?  The strong
>> > language of "seriously" or definitively stating that the individual
>> > did not perform the necessary QA actions before committing?  Both of
>> > which are completely called for and appropriate.  No vulgarity,
>> > insults, or demeaning words were used. How would you have responded
>> > professionally?
>>
>> It's important to remember that Gentoo is run by volunteers. Expecting
>> a professional standard when it comes to the quality of commit
>> criticism is unfair.
>
> Applying that same rationale, it would be unfair to say that an undescribed
> level of professionalism in communication is required as well.  Nothing here
> violates the CoC.
>

If you're only able to behave in a professional manner if the
standards of professionalism are explicitly spelled out, I think
you're missing the point.

Ultimately it is an attitude.  When you point out a mistake make it
either about:
1.  Helping the person who made the mistake to improve because you
want to see them make better contributions (which they aren't going to
do if you drive them off).
2.  If you feel that somebody simply isn't going to cut it, then by
all means report them so that their commit access can be revoked.

Either of these has the potential to make Gentoo better.  Simply
posting flames isn't likely to change the behavior of people who need
#2, and it is likely to discourage people who need #1.  Either is
against all of our interests in making the distro we benefit from
better.

-- 
Rich


  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-15  1:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1462655928.66afcab271f65b97330e610040ad3acc1b812a03.hd_brummy@gentoo>
2016-05-07 21:25 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: eclass/ Michał Górny
2016-05-07 21:48   ` Ryan Hill
2016-05-09 23:10   ` Doug Goldstein
2016-05-13  8:52   ` Ian Delaney
2016-05-14  9:55     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2016-05-14 11:35       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2016-05-14 11:55         ` M. J. Everitt
2016-05-14 15:04         ` Gordon Pettey
2016-05-14 16:53           ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2016-05-14 16:59             ` M. J. Everitt
2016-05-14 17:06               ` Rich Freeman
2016-05-14 17:07                 ` landis blackwell
2016-05-14 17:52                   ` Rich Freeman
2016-05-14 19:21                     ` M. J. Everitt
2016-05-14 20:23                       ` Rich Freeman
2016-05-15 10:47                         ` Daniel Campbell
2016-05-14 17:08                 ` M. J. Everitt
2016-05-14 20:06               ` Andreas K. Huettel
2016-05-14 11:55     ` Aaron Bauman
2016-05-14 13:54       ` Rich Freeman
2016-05-14 23:40         ` Aaron Bauman
2016-05-14 23:48           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2016-05-15  0:23             ` Aaron Bauman
2016-05-15  1:04               ` Rich Freeman [this message]
2016-05-15  1:12                 ` M. J. Everitt
2016-05-16  7:56                 ` Ian Delaney
2016-05-16  8:20                   ` Consus
2016-05-16  8:30                   ` Aaron Bauman
2016-05-16  9:05                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2016-05-16 16:21                     ` Andrew Savchenko
2016-05-16 16:32                       ` Andreas K. Huettel
2016-05-15  0:59           ` Rich Freeman
2016-05-15  1:12             ` M. J. Everitt
2016-05-15  9:53           ` Ryan Hill
2016-05-15 11:04             ` Daniel Campbell
2016-05-15 22:55               ` Duncan
2016-05-15 23:07                 ` Daniel Campbell
2016-05-16  0:12                 ` M. J. Everitt
2016-05-15 18:43             ` Andreas K. Huettel
2016-05-15 10:29           ` Michał Górny
2016-05-15 11:16             ` Daniel Campbell
2016-05-15 22:46               ` Duncan
2016-05-15 23:19                 ` Rich Freeman
2016-05-15  9:05   ` Jeroen Roovers
2016-05-15  9:15     ` Brian Dolbec
2016-05-15 11:18       ` Daniel Campbell
2016-05-15 14:27         ` Brian Dolbec
     [not found] <1567619929.63486fef43c2e0dee3b4128db18fd1a6b4bf9381.tupone@gentoo>
2019-09-04 18:59 ` Michał Górny
2019-09-04 22:30   ` David Seifert
2019-09-04 23:26   ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-09-05  4:02     ` Michał Górny
2019-09-05 13:14       ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-09-05 14:04         ` Gordon Pettey
2019-09-05 19:26           ` Kent Fredric
2019-09-05 19:28             ` James Le Cuirot
2019-09-05 19:47         ` Michał Górny
2019-09-05 19:49           ` Michael Everitt
2019-09-05 20:08           ` Kent Fredric
2019-09-05 20:16             ` Michał Górny
2019-09-05 22:47               ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-09-06  3:45                 ` Mike Gilbert
2019-09-06  6:35                   ` Alfredo Tupone
2019-09-06  5:49                 ` Michał Górny
2019-09-06  4:02     ` Mike Gilbert
     [not found] <1564451381.6f680e4fe73925ae130343e02adb416cb799ce7d.mattst88@gentoo>
2019-07-30  5:20 ` Michał Górny
2019-07-30  5:29   ` Matt Turner
     [not found] <1526675772.d780c05e4459175eb314c82de9f3b998e2b4fc6e.asturm@gentoo>
2018-05-18 21:53 ` Michał Górny
     [not found] <1515158020.1e09cba657ccb2b8e6fbcbeb28c5c593da2127eb.polynomial-c@gentoo>
2018-01-05 13:36 ` Michał Górny
     [not found] <1494961831.d1b05bcf81e5058c20615179fb83a90c45daa487.vapier@gentoo>
2017-05-16 19:20 ` Michał Górny
2017-05-16 19:36   ` Fabian Groffen
2017-05-21 14:02     ` Kent Fredric
2017-05-21 14:46       ` Martin Vaeth
2017-05-21 16:29         ` William Hubbs
2017-05-21 17:34           ` Michał Górny
2017-05-21 18:18             ` Martin Vaeth
2017-05-21 19:32             ` Kent Fredric
2017-05-21 20:38               ` M. J. Everitt
2017-05-21 23:28               ` M. J. Everitt
2017-05-21 17:46   ` Raymond Jennings
2017-05-22  1:13     ` Luis Ressel
     [not found] <1463773635.548f4ee19c6b0fe0d5e87e84a5a82c421229e0ce.johu@gentoo>
2016-05-20 19:55 ` Michał Górny
     [not found] <1460833703.ad0c2ab2bdbd34f4550e49c56cfd5974d6a2c07a.blueness@gentoo>
2016-04-16 19:05 ` Michał Górny
2016-04-16 19:13   ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-04-16 19:16   ` Rich Freeman
2016-04-16 19:18     ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-04-16 19:41       ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-04-16 19:27   ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-04-16 19:31     ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-04-16 22:24       ` Mike Gilbert
2016-04-16 22:36         ` Rich Freeman
2016-04-16 22:46           ` Mike Gilbert
2016-04-16 22:54             ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-04-16 22:50           ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-04-17  8:15   ` Fabian Groffen
2016-04-17  8:28     ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-04-17 22:50       ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-04-18  2:09         ` Luca Barbato
     [not found] <1448180855.a144d7480f781f21323943d87e6a56136add3830.mr_bones_@gentoo>
2015-11-22  8:38 ` Michał Górny
     [not found] <1447717075.aac24917ebe254a23990f0d7fff9f6f570b99d15.mpagano@gentoo>
2015-11-17  7:19 ` Michał Górny
2015-11-17 20:37   ` Raymond Jennings
2015-11-17 23:42     ` Rich Freeman
2015-11-17 21:59   ` Mike Pagano
     [not found] <1447458773.ad4c142684afb096e8fff2937ae5c5c3385dd22e.mgorny@gentoo>
2015-11-16  9:01 ` Alexis Ballier
2015-11-16  9:06   ` Justin Lecher (jlec)
2015-11-16  9:14     ` Alexis Ballier
2015-11-16  9:29       ` Justin Lecher (jlec)
2015-11-16  9:52         ` Alexis Ballier
2015-11-16 12:08           ` Rich Freeman
     [not found] <1446206629.df8e399c9bac2dc30d7cf69c2462a81729a3ae69.jlec@gentoo>
2015-10-30 17:20 ` Michał Górny
2015-10-31  7:06   ` Mike Frysinger
2015-10-31  8:08     ` Michał Górny
2015-10-31 15:05       ` Gregory Woodbury
2015-11-10 23:53       ` Mike Frysinger
2015-11-11  9:09         ` Michał Górny
2015-11-11 14:42           ` Luca Barbato
2015-11-01  7:15   ` Ian Delaney
     [not found] <1444389412.5220bb29741e1685b42a6312c0b7bf2821672040.aballier@gentoo>
2015-10-09 15:32 ` hasufell
2015-10-09 16:21   ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-09 16:25     ` hasufell

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