From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4641138262 for ; Tue, 17 May 2016 16:42:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A5C2314255; Tue, 17 May 2016 16:42:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io0-f196.google.com (mail-io0-f196.google.com [209.85.223.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C463314245 for ; Tue, 17 May 2016 16:42:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io0-f196.google.com with SMTP id x35so4640062ioi.0 for ; Tue, 17 May 2016 09:42:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0sX99WjrxaQLqau67FvKrhqLR+5f1x3NyhPTkVvrPIQ=; b=uJ9qeuGxliByKvHDKy3KkOrWAcEQYuxA8cWB8DXdqgTWi8T7CSh1LBcjAoffvZYCJA 7Z3nRXLbe7JnUmAI8xR7sw/8EMQIG+x4FDzfB6Puo9ZVrwYTvU1t2FLlE0sn1rQB3kvR 7/iV7d5YbILbs4wbaPwZCXlVcQTiEh+ux4WTA2DKw/2VwJ7jQShZ6+vuffAyevBjtvvv MHwwadw3BzLI0qlYW6ReLRn/2/8hrJWuNmR8H/ZJjUXX/FnBsoh3L+h3g11zQO+TDtH9 MR89k0KyL2CUmxVrXzxo3aPssP76Do3bzG5KNpsdrkUVSt3NQv50R0WDLq571sPfKkIW 1ybg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0sX99WjrxaQLqau67FvKrhqLR+5f1x3NyhPTkVvrPIQ=; b=CG9g5LKrH4fGRRmWXwUpdBcqccr7GGPgKbhCtGmIXY2y8YGVlUxFfzfVbGAiL9zgMO 8AMM7DFq/VcwZrd/XkCjYuMLQUwpkeb6vDcYAQ0B8LJkeKYFy1GG1MlEHmrYpZ+UP/Ux PFWvOORcUO6T4GpiruciZ5W8z0ZCUt/rS1Wb6r2lLOb9fHfN/SRj/wnDfPOw0f8P0GiJ pIrekV6MMCzYU+N2b96y2JFEBIMnz+q+3quryAoP6LLueOvK5pzGXHvZ9oCAtKbMyEPC oWHBcwxia9LWkZMUOvUm4aIZNbJ3Hf7DLge8OG/w4CdzARc4aqCwS2+ptMVPU8SJErAs CFjQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FV/G1j5sWDyN7w369g36FUru/8Si8BNlFWAh7W/i3BYz7eGexMxu+m6+p2qjnzSnmzWBk99jX2gQFowGA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.36.74.8 with SMTP id k8mr13780140itb.74.1463503335892; Tue, 17 May 2016 09:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.159.8 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2016 09:42:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20160516183840.4b241463@gentp.lnet> <20160517173418.168d2cba@gentp.lnet> Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 12:42:15 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: DCvib8rhfzTTaHCOiuKaK2jX7po Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for changes for the next EAPI version From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 0410fcbd-9854-4237-9e4b-fe639972eb23 X-Archives-Hash: 264d6a04bada8cc5733ca3d6642889e0 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:05 PM, S=C3=A9bastien Fabbro wrote: > On 17 May 2016 at 08:34, Luis Ressel wrote: > >> >> Automated post-merge tests sound kinda dangerous to me. And I don't >> think there's any stipulation about src_test() only running >> upstream-provided test suites. IMHO, src_test() would be a good place >> for most of the maintainter-provided tests you have in mind. >> > > The idea of this project is not for a typical Gentoo user to run this > post-merge test, but for an automated arch-tester bot to run them in > batch jobs. The result of which would be an update of the ebuild to > stable. I would suggest that it would make sense to separate tests that are unsafe for a typical user to run from those which are, to allow users to run them if they so choose. As I said earlier, arch testing has its limitations and I think many would like to be able to run the automated tests routinely. Since they're standardized they'd also provide really good feedback to maintainers when they do have errors missed by ATs. --=20 Rich