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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users
Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 10:01:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGfcS_=Ss8FZPJ_Xtpixvnhjq0z_TEr=P+dxrfUmwXq+D7w4vQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN3Atvrgt7mHS_zyiaZ1cuP3_1SKLUBN+ErmUedH6TOyWs18Zw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Fabio Erculiani <lxnay@gentoo.org> wrote:
> And (and!) how does all this fit together with eudev? If the idea is
> to either put logind in udev (thus, not creating a separate logind
> ebuild), it means that eudev is already a dead end for GNOME users,
> unless the eudev team is going to provide logind as well.

I picked this paragraph to quote, but this is more of an overall
response to your email.

Gentoo is about choice, but that doesn't mean that every developer has
to support every possible choice on every package.

Eudev not working with gnome is not a reason to hold back either
project.  Not every option in Gentoo has to be compatible with every
other option.

Eudev is welcome to stay even if its developers are its only users.

I do agree in general that systemd seems pretty likely to take over,
but that doesn't mean that those who aren't running big desktop
environments can't make use of the alternatives, or that providing
alternatives is bad.  I doubt you'll ever get Gnome 3.8 running on
Prefix either.  :)

Rich


  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-15 14:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 167+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-01 10:04 [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-01 10:50 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-01 11:00   ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-01 13:13     ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-02  2:49       ` William Hubbs
2013-05-01 13:36   ` Michał Górny
2013-05-01 13:54 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-05-01 14:14   ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-01 18:52     ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-05-01 21:40       ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Stuge
2013-05-01 22:32         ` Matt Turner
2013-05-02  2:11       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-02  2:41         ` Alex Xu
2013-05-01 14:20 ` [gentoo-dev] " Matthew Thode
2013-05-01 14:22   ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-01 14:52 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-01 19:52 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2013-05-01 20:32   ` Michał Górny
2013-05-01 21:14   ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-02  3:18     ` William Hubbs
2013-05-02  4:26       ` Kent Fredric
2013-05-02  5:42         ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-02 18:05         ` William Hubbs
2013-05-02 18:13           ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-02 19:01             ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-02 19:15               ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-02 19:30               ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-02 19:39               ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-02 20:25                 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-02 20:27               ` Kent Fredric
2013-05-02 22:55                 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-02 23:07                   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-02 22:54             ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-04 10:42 ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato
2013-05-04 12:54   ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-05 11:57     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-04 13:05   ` [gentoo-dev] " Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-04 13:12     ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-05  7:07       ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-04 16:12     ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-05  7:11     ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-07 20:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-08 15:26 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ben de Groot
2013-05-08 15:39   ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-08 15:49     ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-08 15:53       ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-08 16:06       ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-08 16:34         ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-08 16:27       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-08 17:57       ` William Hubbs
2013-05-08 18:19       ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-09  1:48       ` Walter Dnes
2013-05-09  2:01         ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-05-09  9:56           ` Anthony G. Basile
2013-05-09 16:44             ` Michał Górny
2013-05-09 16:53               ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-09 17:01               ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-08 15:39   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-08 15:49     ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-08 16:06       ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-08 16:14         ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-08 16:58           ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-08 16:21       ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-08 17:01         ` Arun Raghavan
2013-05-09  2:18           ` Walter Dnes
2013-05-09  3:07             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-09 11:00             ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-08 17:07         ` Michał Górny
2013-05-08 18:24         ` William Hubbs
2013-05-08 15:52     ` Michael Mol
2013-05-08 16:59   ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-08 17:08   ` Michał Górny
2013-05-08 17:18     ` Michael Mol
2013-05-08 17:32       ` Michał Górny
2013-05-08 17:37       ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-10  4:50         ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-05-10  7:45         ` [gentoo-dev] " Ralph Sennhauser
2013-05-10 10:09           ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-11 16:55             ` Ralph Sennhauser
2013-05-11 21:38               ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-14  8:41           ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-15 12:17             ` Michał Górny
2013-05-15 13:41               ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-15 14:01                 ` Rich Freeman [this message]
2013-05-16  2:39                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-15 14:08                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Pacho Ramos
2013-05-16 14:02                   ` William Hubbs
2013-05-15 14:16                 ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-15 15:00                   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-16  0:27                   ` William Hubbs
2013-05-16  1:28                     ` Matthew Thode
2013-05-16  6:58                       ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-15 15:03                 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-15 15:10                   ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-15 16:59                     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-15 17:25                       ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-15 18:11                         ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-15 19:02                           ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-15 19:05                             ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-15 20:56                     ` Alexander Berntsen
2013-05-15 21:01                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-15 23:56                         ` Matthew Thode
2013-05-16  0:50                       ` William Hubbs
2013-05-15 17:26                   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-16  5:20                     ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-15 18:18                 ` waltdnes
2013-05-15 22:38                   ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-15 21:07                     ` waltdnes
2013-05-16  1:20                   ` William Hubbs
2013-05-16  1:31                     ` Matthew Thode
2013-05-17  0:58                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-05-18  3:45                         ` William Hubbs
2013-05-18  9:41                           ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-18 17:02                           ` Walter Dnes
2013-05-18 17:38                             ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-05-18 17:47                               ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-18 19:23                                 ` Carlos Silva
2013-05-19 12:59                                   ` Michael Mol
2013-05-19 13:23                                     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-05-19 14:04                                       ` J. Roeleveld
2013-05-19 14:34                                         ` Peter Stuge
2013-05-19 18:02                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-19 18:05                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-21  3:03                                             ` Daniel Campbell
2013-05-21  3:34                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-21 13:17                                                 ` Michael Mol
2013-05-22 21:39                                                 ` Re: " Daniel Campbell
2013-05-22 22:39                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-23  6:06                                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-05-23  6:41                                                   ` Michał Górny
2013-05-23  8:02                                                     ` Daniel Campbell
2013-05-23  9:46                                                       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-23 19:19                                                       ` Michael Orlitzky
2013-05-21  4:45                                               ` Duncan
2013-05-21 13:50                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-21 13:57                                                   ` Michael Mol
2013-05-21 14:02                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-21 14:35                                                       ` Michael Mol
2013-05-21 21:37                                                   ` Duncan
2013-05-21 22:52                                                     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-22  3:06                                                       ` Duncan
2013-05-22  8:46                                                         ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-22 15:19                                                           ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-22 15:24                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-23  5:30                                                       ` Duncan
2013-05-23  6:57                                                         ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-23  7:12                                                           ` Duncan
2013-05-21  7:03                                               ` Alan McKinnon
2013-05-21  7:10                                                 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-22 15:21                                                 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-22 18:32                                                   ` Michał Górny
2013-05-22 18:42                                                   ` Zac Medico
2013-05-22 19:17                                                     ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-22 23:38                                                     ` Walter Dnes
2013-05-24  6:32                                                 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-05-24  6:48                                                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-05-21 10:09                                               ` Albert Hopkins
2013-05-21 10:22                                               ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-24  6:26                                           ` J. Roeleveld
2013-05-19  3:36                             ` William Hubbs
2013-05-21 12:25                           ` [gentoo-dev] TLDNR; " Steven J. Long
2013-05-16  2:30                 ` Re: [gentoo-dev] " Daniel Campbell
2013-06-07 11:52                 ` Olav Vitters
2013-06-07 12:04                   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-07 12:24                     ` Olav Vitters
2013-06-07 12:34                       ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-07 14:57                         ` Olav Vitters

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