From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RnHXN-0004uB-7X for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 22:29:53 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6DA25E0B11; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 22:29:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f53.google.com (mail-bk0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B828E09A6 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 22:29:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkty12 with SMTP id y12so1045625bkt.40 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:29:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WjtbBuad0DlcOuzYMT3e1s9I0MMy5/GnVpr11wa2SAQ=; b=ADQxdlbETDsKghYnByd36ziTXMSthmGW7a4INb8lCIkcEvsnJeZFPokOq7DU88QxRg IB+iwy5KHaQYXjGHs8yIr/VjH9GjyC48K+DTrUnpebcDWCnSUffmShuOs0QFJKOOsxPI EcWneqXUIDY20YQJVnT0dBX8iU/ZfIILtfwAo= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.156.219 with SMTP id y27mr7378243bkw.71.1326839345457; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:29:05 -0800 (PST) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.167.10 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:29:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4F0440B3.4090500@gentoo.org> <20120106160719.GB18959@fury> <201201080047.27281.polynomial-c@gentoo.org> <20120108103345.382b8db3@pomiocik.lan> <20120110181452.GA14155@mailgate.onlinehome-server.info> <20120110194640.7696d2c7@pomiocik.lan> <4F0C89CB.6010402@gmail.com> <20120110200315.4f8dbb7a@pomiocik.lan> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 17:29:05 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: IWldmnYRufH9VArfqtfIqoe4qvA Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: 2d1dbca6-1a2f-4aae-9fa7-1e38229f5883 X-Archives-Hash: ea7cb9ad214fe8a92e00c18c0dfe09b7 On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Steven J Long wrote: > The shifting nature of the arguments and the solutions makes me more > uncomfortable that this hasn't been thought through even with the amount of > feedback, and more importantly proper consideration to that feedback, > required for a GLEP, let alone a change to base Linux filesystem > specifications. > Keep in mind that the main proponents of this do not intend to issue any GLEPs (they don't use Gentoo), and they may or may not get around to changing FHS/etc. They just intend to "do it" - and to some extent they're already doing it. Unless projects like udev get forked, we're going there whether we want to or not - apparently a soon-to-be-introduced version of udev already breaks when /usr isn't mounted at boot. If people don't like this, they need to start writing code, otherwise they're going to get it by default... Rich