From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3E91389C6 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:59:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9004D21C01A; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:59:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ia0-f180.google.com (mail-ia0-f180.google.com [209.85.210.180]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 852B421C003 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f180.google.com with SMTP id f27so7340592iae.25 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 03:59:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=E8wUl9dCSC3rqsPypirPsRL5YJhbRwUoW04FGsia7Wo=; b=Tdyf1RbebXbVMcaX+bEGY5gY1FFq/1dLgzguhBaAYSyd896wN2bOkaFj359Bled/3W +s1iI1NbpiB6pN2aD0sGA2p12Ti8ed5D7fOEa9RxBGeS5t/sVuBsXkEV4B6wtxhKA9pr gtLTdr635U7jWI3yT8lA97vfKirDU+jb5ElgUrDLt8zeA8fxE/TojDf/fClv5oI4WNsM HsqIv2V6/59fTNCLXKj3uUgjcAFvhlaTtGpPv4D1g2lj3FKouTf3xy9olVyksnu4QGj7 HtGF6Z3SJCHI3FuPpGg1ccUdcjVRKt1WmjCUL55E1A3aElfj+QbOw3qUJmtceeF+hWHi U+cA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.108.161 with SMTP id hl1mr2502654igb.101.1360670347800; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 03:59:07 -0800 (PST) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.110.200 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 03:59:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20130207055244.9167.qmail@stuge.se> <1843047.zKdLAzEhcU@lebrodyl> <20130208184652.5fd15c00@gentoo.org> <5116593F.5000209@gentoo.org> <20130210230114.07ab4467@gentoo.org> <5118D530.10201@gentoo.org> <20130211104945.62f8d487@gentoo.org> <51195CEB.7000505@gentoo.org> <20130211213334.4398.qmail@stuge.se> <51197C65.10808@gentoo.org> <20130211233432.14047.qmail@stuge.se> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 06:59:07 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: shiAvsijWqGyleXCrsvjs2Rlzwg Message-ID: Subject: Re: Discussing defaults (Was: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in virtual/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-9.ebuild ChangeLog ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1.ebuild) From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: d3411cba-15d2-4643-b943-78c2931eff2e X-Archives-Hash: 94f76447ddeee1067cbdeb4f69387b8e On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:21 AM, Ian Whyman wrote: > > Can we not just have a developer wide vote or something? This instance > clearly not going to resole itself. I don't think the average developer is really in a good position to resolve this - it will just create a whole lot of fuss and who knows if it will come to the right resolution. If it really doesn't matter than save a lot of fuss and flip a coin. If it does matter then the maintainers of the media-video herd should resolve this That's generally where the affected packages are, but they should of course call for comments from reverse dependencies after suitably framing the issue. If anybody feels that isn't going anywhere or isn't going in the right direction and that something needs to change, they can always ask the council to take it up. They're not really the ideal ones to get involved and will probably want somebody to make a really good case for why they should step in. However, if there really is a need for some kind of democratic vote at least the problem becomes properly informing seven people and not 200. Rich