From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DCC2138334 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F764E0C0C; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:52:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pg1-f194.google.com (mail-pg1-f194.google.com [209.85.215.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90854E0C04 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:52:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pg1-f194.google.com with SMTP id r5-v6so6968068pgv.0 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 06:52:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=ybuos2e5Vfw+2JVlWgaGD6hg51g0N/Qjq9/NVPkUceM=; b=cQBmlGcrXiEoHeQ69D6/nt1+CRI8yBW+cpd+w5/NvJt1MdfK7GBEmtDDsO2/96F8m/ LUBIIIktQ/dzygFrGSsp23ijmKHxsITtBth9ZzcKfaIufdpP9oUetZuSs9koskWKl9du ozBE+peIZ9NWIHwGEBET7KcypPLqy+Wuo2AFeZdbN757KCe1HrhjEj6NGuCLRUvvwiPS ZDqqprBdPDRwP8AEEzV7d9MA3NV2GRX/k+DIe+pyRqg1gu50vc49w3agYyvYO7kC8lC0 mdmocBIp7TDf5NhYBUxU6WBoi5Jp11snMh4yRtSY2rL2lG6dG1RO7STLNUzXwSEgwFyM Kq+w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlFkM5cfL8qzVcPY2kPItG8XpP5TGY05Ob7YWfcDVAR2mH1YTe3C KSx6a83QyGLaiKpHBrsbzXJCFESsOP7HiO+TXU5tEAjK X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpdxTdt9QEiV8fFqVDpQRBoKH5PrFMZu6kzKqMHVpssQEK0WQGipkamoozO0PQc2QzvTSTsVz2nycZMHZZqXxn4= X-Received: by 2002:a63:64c2:: with SMTP id y185-v6mr2209206pgb.126.1532094721333; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 06:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <16018DCB-B863-4822-855A-5DA954D3AAA9@gentoo.org> <1532063200.12299.5.camel@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: From: Rich Freeman Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 09:51:49 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding USE=udev to linux profiles To: gentoo-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: 31a33443-62a7-4e69-bc63-af9569f137c3 X-Archives-Hash: d930cf3285411e9757af12e000b4d6ff On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 9:47 AM Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > On 07/20/2018 07:55 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > > While I agree that setting USE=-udev isn't the same as leaving it to > > package defaults, you further claim that setting this globally causes > > severe breakage in some cases. Can you provide an example of this? > > > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/640226 This doesn't involve USE=-udev, which is the flag we're talking about. > Or see any thread on the dangers of USE="-*" which is dangerous for the > same reason. We aren't setting USE=-* either. I get that globally manipulating flags CAN cause issues. And yet we do it from time to time. I'm looking for evidence that in this particular case there is a problem. -- Rich