From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] udev and /usr
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:29:58 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGfcS_=6ORHxrv6eqa8M7JS9Zmp+-RBnNFFD2pYDUDzeav6seg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E77CDF0.5060404@gentoo.org>
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Joshua Kinard <kumba@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Host-specific / and host-independent /usr is not itself a bad idea. I can
> envision quite a few useful scenarios for this. But on a single box, why?
> And for those of us with differing architectures, how would this add any
> benefit? Is this more of a detail for future RHEL releases (since Fedora is
> a type of proving ground for RH) so that sysadmins have an easier time
> managing them? Nothing wrong with it, but it needs to be a configurable
> choice by the end-user.
>
> I'll admit I may not be as informed as I oughta to be, but what I have read
> indicates that some people think this is the direction to go in, for various
> reasons.
See:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove
That is some of the rationale for Fedora. It isn't a bad idea both
for destop-oriented and server-oriented setups. It especially makes
sense for a more traditional distro with versioned releases (basicaly
you just drop in a new /usr and you're done minus a few /etc updates -
and if you make /etc nothing but overrides from defaults then it would
itself be almost empty and not need updates much).
Sure, we're not really planning to do that with Gentoo, but that is
the pressure upstream is under. When you have big distros pushing all
the major projects in a particular direction we need to be really
selective about where we push back.
The sky isn't falling though - nobody is looking to go out of their
way to break non-root /usr, and we are looking to have a minimal
initramfs even for those cases where it breaks a little.
Rich
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-09-20 0:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-15 14:33 [gentoo-dev] udev and /usr Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 15:07 ` Zac Medico
2011-09-15 16:04 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 16:27 ` Zac Medico
2011-09-15 20:03 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 20:14 ` Michał Górny
2011-09-15 20:37 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-09-15 20:45 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2011-09-15 21:24 ` Brian Harring
2011-09-15 20:27 ` Rich Freeman
2011-09-15 21:56 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 20:31 ` Robin H. Johnson
2011-09-15 22:05 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 20:34 ` Zac Medico
2011-09-15 22:13 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 22:27 ` Michał Górny
2011-09-16 6:02 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 20:56 ` William Hubbs
2011-09-15 22:17 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 18:29 ` Rich Freeman
2011-09-15 20:40 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 20:54 ` Rich Freeman
2011-09-15 21:48 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-16 0:32 ` Rich Freeman
2011-09-16 7:25 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-16 7:29 ` Robin H. Johnson
2011-09-15 19:31 ` Luca Barbato
2011-09-15 20:33 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-16 4:03 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2011-09-16 13:59 ` Rich Freeman
2011-09-25 6:35 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-09-25 9:53 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2011-09-26 1:32 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-09-26 1:57 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2011-09-26 2:27 ` Zac Medico
2011-09-26 4:35 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2011-09-26 2:27 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-09-25 12:53 ` Rich Freeman
2011-09-25 23:16 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2011-09-26 1:37 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-09-18 5:43 ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato
2011-09-18 12:38 ` Rich Freeman
2011-09-18 12:49 ` Michał Górny
2011-09-18 12:59 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2011-09-18 14:27 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2011-09-18 14:51 ` Michał Górny
2011-09-18 17:26 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2011-09-19 8:15 ` Joshua Kinard
2011-09-19 8:25 ` Alec Warner
2011-09-19 8:44 ` Joshua Kinard
2011-09-19 8:33 ` Michał Górny
2011-09-19 8:57 ` Joshua Kinard
2011-09-19 9:10 ` Michał Górny
2011-09-19 10:30 ` Dale
2011-09-19 10:37 ` Joshua Kinard
2011-09-19 11:17 ` Arun Raghavan
2011-09-19 23:19 ` Joshua Kinard
2011-09-20 0:29 ` Rich Freeman [this message]
2011-09-20 2:08 ` Joshua Kinard
2011-09-20 2:50 ` Zac Medico
2011-09-20 6:48 ` Fabian Groffen
2011-09-19 17:36 ` Greg KH
2011-09-19 18:00 ` Rich Freeman
2011-09-19 21:46 ` Luca Barbato
2011-09-19 22:40 ` Greg KH
2011-09-19 22:57 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2011-09-20 3:53 ` Zac Medico
2011-09-19 23:24 ` Joshua Kinard
2011-09-18 19:27 ` Zac Medico
2011-09-15 19:41 ` Robin H. Johnson
2011-09-15 21:00 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 22:18 ` Robin H. Johnson
2011-09-16 8:36 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-16 18:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2011-09-17 6:16 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-17 14:10 ` Rich Freeman
2011-09-19 8:25 ` Joshua Kinard
2011-09-17 18:40 ` [gentoo-dev] " Robin H. Johnson
2011-09-18 15:22 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-18 18:14 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2011-09-18 18:59 ` Rich Freeman
2011-09-19 8:03 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2011-09-19 7:59 ` [gentoo-dev] " Joshua Kinard
2011-09-19 8:25 ` Michał Górny
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