From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DD11381FA for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 13:04:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 670ABE08EE; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 13:04:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ve0-f182.google.com (mail-ve0-f182.google.com [209.85.128.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B214E08A2 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 13:04:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f182.google.com with SMTP id sa20so6837702veb.41 for ; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 06:04:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=03wJaAp1ieMOch5sZXfcqmg5mSntCQQMwqbwf7ZDZDU=; b=GPe1iaEoXVjt1im8glAC1QycRilwfVTMEDphTDqvvUdsKe56T+F+NYWw3cShJE0zsQ xNppcypB5OT3jcgxf1sIauBrpQmVs0+WELtBCu9BFTBEqAphCQRPa9S0w2pZ+wnrD8BO L0WGCMEg2BTR449WRaFwVtmY2j/HsdRv6gsGdnm2r91X27a34KOXG09flN4kH4kLXorb EKst0tAoB0vVcrYn7DlT5WVo0kxplNbRMeI5P+Tx3zqO3G27ai3+9H4O0GAjFedJcFBJ G9taf27X+Hc81wq1YPo2n9kMJn/8fwjZZmyFfKwhEsawIURnDxm/I3kbF+TDwz/iSqZl EUWw== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.176.68 with SMTP id bd4mr694016vcb.70.1401800663779; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 06:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.52.30.227 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 06:04:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <538DBE76.8060300@gentoo.org> References: <5383A0E6.3020700@gentoo.org> <20140531024701.GB3828@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> <5389BA4C.8040106@gentoo.org> <2990845.EWIttsqmb4@andromeda> <538DB0C5.6070206@gentoo.org> <20140603140850.7b69dff6@gentoo.org> <538DBE76.8060300@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 09:04:23 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Qq7gPO5-nns7Rh3Rdk5-yyksQvM Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UPower upstream (git master) and 0.99 release -> No sys-power/pm-utils support anymore From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 3bb3b306-c5f0-42fa-b488-54128dd8d840 X-Archives-Hash: bf56beb438c97bd469d4bbad9b1bcbda On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 03/06/14 15:08, Tom Wijsman wrote: >> On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 07:35:42 -0400 >> Rich Freeman wrote: >> >>> This probably could have used a news item, as the change impacts both >>> stable and ~arch users. >> Are we going to write a news item every time systemd acquires a new >> mandatory relationship with a reverse dependency? > > IMHO, not every singular dependency change (even blocker) needs one. > For those failing to read `eix upower` or `emerge -C upower` or masking > systemd, or number of other ways the blocker can be solved, the answer > is in Gentoo news letter, forums, first hits in Google, /topic of #gentoo at > Freenode, MLs, pretty much everywhere. The whole point of news is to tell people about an action they need to take before they have to take it. The output of portage doesn't really tell you what is going on. The article in GMN doesn't provide clear instructions on what needs to be done, and refers to 0.99.0 when the issue impacts 0.9.23 as well. > > But news item has been planned all along for when UPower 0.99.0 goes > stable, propably > GNOME 3.12 and some 0.99.0 consumers, when there are enough steps to > accumulate as news worthy. This has already hit stable. The dependency on systemd is present in sys-power/upower-0.9.23-r3, which was just stablized. Rich