From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 656F51381F3 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 16:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62BFCE0B09; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 16:02:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vb0-f47.google.com (mail-vb0-f47.google.com [209.85.212.47]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 992BFE0A68 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 16:02:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f47.google.com with SMTP id h10so3272327vbh.6 for ; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 09:02:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=tXpLJJZpbms+iCPGRkeaRNuv/D6zDWJutuv1brEOTTM=; b=WyYwXh0RwN3Hr0kQVMi+iVHpOgrdkiXJLSUNEtTJ1Z6SAmcy3LGlROM1esDIgIf1nP Jd2VysauvQNbMj1QhwN3TJdbPWECEa7ppgk7z4R3Zct30u/zD+yg1MMbxq3N+BFhIUBM KsqEekBYvp5UNSW208UixN38xvWke1SZcAW9NirfmSccYbkyhd10mXzMGB0b/YLBg9sQ ATCexDp65RIlTfxf4IV8HAIqlqLT43HaSXRlWAGxy8NUiq72JR/meTZ+UstIyFgTaFaP JQtfwQXOHeqiPd0fH5TXk4xj5M9KPSGalha/on0e/58D7zaeNxRJ0WnJqNTSxhlSyu8G bnJA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.64.179 with SMTP id p19mr2934909vds.92.1375977725685; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 09:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.52.73.74 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 09:02:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5203BC0A.4030205@gentoo.org> References: <5202416C.5@gentoo.org> <1375881254.7753.41.camel@rook> <5202DD20.8050906@gentoo.org> <5203A880.1050306@gentoo.org> <5203B190.80306@gentoo.org> <5203B660.30807@gmail.com> <5203BC0A.4030205@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 12:02:05 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: _pGdQdmYYyt18Y9YxwyUFYI9yZA Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8 From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: 906d99c2-257a-4465-87e5-21c7e29edf53 X-Archives-Hash: dca7eb14a6fcf81a396bcf94746edb29 On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > It may be pertinent for this reason (a "smoother" upgrade path) and > this reason alone, to stabilize gnome-3.6 first -- just to get into > gnome3 (and get gnome-2 removed) without having to also deal with the > systemd migration at the same time. I'd defer to Pacho who seems to be giving thought to planning for the upgrade path. My suggestion would be that it would make more sense to first switch to systemd running the current gnome. Switching to systemd is really the harder change here, and systemd works just fine with earlier versions of gnome AFAIK. There are already migration guides for systemd (though I haven't tried them recently - the last time I did I got burned by the fact that dhcpcd doesn't run by default as it does in openrc-oldnet (or whatever we're going to call it)). Migrating to systemd on a system that doesn't run many services isn't actually that hard. The biggest pain is hunting down unit files if you have a lot of things that don't provide them, and doing all the config (anything in /etc/conf.d basically needs a redo). Rich