From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-50201-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1S6vb3-0007Af-TD for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 03:06:54 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 804E9E0B22 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 03:06:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vx0-f181.google.com (mail-vx0-f181.google.com [209.85.220.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36D7E09C0 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 02:20:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcge1 with SMTP id e1so4304871vcg.40 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:20:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lDcbHFbtwRfsuaC/5L8yBAGZaTcSF8Zx1m/cQmCeaRg=; b=WVrMiDi9z1HH7AEjPtUFhfpouXH5X9TIcUfxnqwf9JKi93cZLN5YozCddQOwOEPhXw RxHfAFY/fgQgYVW+00QiX7oCz6LyDVgblqb7OMgkW6ELZAcNASqiD+7FSoRi2w2zrBMq wAy0p3aLvIr9K6Ds8SgGbOehluysPfPfXbBYqXQUsNZ4dEWB3SXlpQH6L+z61JN5+zOv QIkkiO/1PNqZhVJcCkCV/R8+9j613FHJsfRCLv3VNK8VqjZOwlRV9/36R00qhyn2b9UU d6BaBOoPbwRLiRWs1/+GzA+XOtoKsnlYq//qKAqCqtF2DX+FzRSimAvIuUANFxHk69jQ ngxQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.173.38 with SMTP id bh6mr12859748vdc.43.1331518813393; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.68.74 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:20:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120312020344.GE7579@localhost> References: <4F58FC55.7070005@orlitzky.com> <20120308184820.108fc30c@googlemail.com> <4F592612.6050203@orlitzky.com> <20120309060424.09cdce1e@pomiocik.lan> <4F599692.9050503@orlitzky.com> <20120309172921.281ee5a0@pomiocik.lan> <4F5A368D.2020605@orlitzky.com> <20314.14772.897891.110368@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <4F5A3E6C.4040900@orlitzky.com> <4F5A4246.8080605@gentoo.org> <20120312020344.GE7579@localhost> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 22:20:13 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: GWq0W2iH7rR_UVN4c_7BoPBTRwM Message-ID: <CAGfcS_=+7E-=zTMLEEFwM8xG4R21AJ3xWaS_HCE8P7PUEtNSyA@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFD: EAPI specification in ebuilds From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Zac Medico <zmedico@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 3ba43853-3e51-47ec-ab82-0abcf83e37ee X-Archives-Hash: ee70bacd2fce8fafcc47f40de01c13d1 On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Brian Harring <ferringb@gmail.com> wrote: > Pragmatic reality, the eapi function actually would work fine. =A0As > pointed out elsewhere, bash parses as it goes- which isn't going to > change. Unless the ebuild isn't written in bash... How do you source the ebuild if you don't know what to use to source it? How do you know what to use to source it if you don't know the EAPI? Right now all the existing EAPIs use bash, but there is no reason the file couldn't be xml, or python, or just about anything else. If we want to allow for that kind of flexibility, then it might make sense to go ahead and state that our convention is to stick EAPI=3D5 in one of the first few lines of the ebuild, or inside a comment, but also go a step further and state that the text "EAPI=3D" cannot appear elsewhere in the ebuild (or perhaps within the first 10 lines). Just about any file format we might use would allow us to make "EAPI=3D" appear in it, but not all could guarantee that it would occur at the start of a line, or at the start of a line immediately after a #. In any case, I can really see the KISS value in a very rigid syntax that is trivial to parse. Stuff like this almost makes me wish our ebuilds already were xml files or such, with bash embedded inside sections. Finding a particular tag in an xml file is trivial as the fundamentals haven't changed in 15 years. Rich