From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85ED4139083 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2017 01:21:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 37151E0F77; Sat, 9 Dec 2017 01:21:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qt0-x229.google.com (mail-qt0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF302E0E33 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2017 01:21:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qt0-x229.google.com with SMTP id i40so28986883qti.8 for ; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 17:21:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=1+Tm5ugtWLPsx1chLu9UK1jymzq7rQa/lEXJ8lRaExU=; b=j9A+6X29e5rA7Lnzw3NmbPBF1IimxlgiLHLqsAfvra/1+Ywc9ufe5qlmFOSz01vOjl XmSvOiPQmcMt8+xzMgcbBDp7+XFtXgZVwZhCt+bDerbClbHGeesVQZcil3KeOPOnc1Fc vXuL1DK8BuwTjySw9QjJ5QVnOw6sUDSE/hqidaja4Da6JfGCLsp1htT64rIo33WiZ95A FBfEU1Noq9m0Qe3cCTpS9eXx26tmh20kSFjxxrLphzsDBCRQP5vu2UnggnpLT5yPsPLp PumOjBbSqtwf1Ql0MfCKpmUmw0JoLvCwZd6MI/xYuHZME2SsABIsyFJUyPzUh5ugzCc5 FgOg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=1+Tm5ugtWLPsx1chLu9UK1jymzq7rQa/lEXJ8lRaExU=; b=Xauyl9RXUJB9YYqVvefLbUNfXR21F8aaCh1JQ5wrvXCzFdQE8wlNx/HnAJfHNlwC+z IzQIfB19fNtWg5JA9vSeUwR9vTKWFv5YvL9+aLrJAa81XNiFmVtRoENaL8HDI5DZ+pHc YQ3lK3dDnFMXT/xYvwJeUcEm2BpN/+kL0I4m0dgxZZ5XMYMOEKwhXkv+tbuIIjSPjOX8 0qqJwq8jnZ8ukUT07ia7DD4pYjZ9PEijnHWRPN5gf0GmLRK3hP0Y0cGJifeJkrjdddkB IMIM74usU1In2HtfAfMRxQXT00BgTiTdda3UNVbLDAtUe9ocRN+6y8usifIGk8aDl8Ge Xrkg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mLEyA8E5wY+w2w/IexuoXljgHg8zaW2fzl3T4HZB/85DnBphthE 0zouKO8U+4KU5kdrwTxFref4hYO/L1h0SEJun10= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMZoMIfLHdWizGJlDfjP2OkfSYLrtFb/Qgq1sfTH0blTU9PSJ6PyuLWL2tArOiuWXDeKq4EL5evUyPlmu3QBHAY= X-Received: by 10.237.34.51 with SMTP id n48mr18328545qtc.300.1512782469729; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 17:21:09 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.34.148 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Dec 2017 17:20:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1512256684.30000.48.camel@gentoo.org> <49607e48-f277-6a36-4eef-6509dff001d5@iee.org> <07a58a98-963c-f44d-7c36-680625eb370c@gentoo.org> From: Georg Rudoy <0xd34df00d@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 20:20:49 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] [RFC] Splitting developer-oriented and expert user mailing lists To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: 7fb12c46-fce1-41f0-8229-ee983966092e X-Archives-Hash: 8333e03c8a7c8799f25dc501e9487044 2017-12-08 2:43 GMT-05:00 R0b0t1 : > > On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > > On 12/04/2017 10:36 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > >> Sorry last one, directed to Alec, but all should read. > > > > I hope you really mean that, we've all heard you complaining about this > > too many times already. > > > > Inasmuch as a random person is likely to care, glancing at the > messages shows wltjr is the more convincing of the parties involved. > Having actually wasted time trying to figure out what is going on > there is no mention of what ever happened from Gentoo that indicates > anything improper took place. Single-point samples are not really representative. The messages wltjr sent and the bugs/PRs/etc he linked convinced me in quite the contrary, at least, about the legitimacy of the current actions. -- Georg Rudoy