From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82FD4138330 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 03:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B7D7E0B71; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 03:25:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ua0-f195.google.com (mail-ua0-f195.google.com [209.85.217.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 33EFBE0B6A for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 03:25:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ua0-f195.google.com with SMTP id 59so3691uap.3 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 20:25:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=0T7ZZe8yFp73c+zCwTOLWM/1LWFpM4z80BVE87nrMjI=; b=gfeexEs5mScJeEsnxGEKMvM0u8lswiQDbmCSbMCI5RnBiOpJukr2JcQsXO7WX856A4 PnJnm2nBY0J3Jybnb3qEJC/osFUkLrM95eBV13EXeUROwjK+Q71HVronlYmyZoWJg9ig JbGCEeVrLaJml0uI5i35nDABsj0sf6wiXRg/xb0q8UdpeyHeBmA/xbi34ieY+o6szzHp NdHMJ7SNoyyUv0y7hD/2RRw4SjLZqSVqtTxIJg1+c+Ucnn+egI62/wy1uHxl1u+iUxfO TkoLiOpB4RLDN5wbm/32OgChdLpcVyrZ9N9M2TYxX/MYpOGtN/RjNHe9sTHyTtpbtOd/ L0Sg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=0T7ZZe8yFp73c+zCwTOLWM/1LWFpM4z80BVE87nrMjI=; b=ZWEVxsV7tlLPPhBSZo8dFS81dzGXbptV366wfJMxGvKxK/WpszHOHfsK1EK9cZqVO6 xr8CSd+8uYDDw+L800cG350ujHaFEdPModRbpLyFnrkp2nFvQzFrbn01uPtF/sFfNlMJ ZVmnVI6zRtFrqevjkTF9rse14aPku/3AdXIqgv3aXUjE/3UxasGovzkcJdbmFyJdlEIY ANguGdaUUjTb2SxsSYSYRIe54KEVX3EWVKuhlR3iT2M8KFet9x1s8B7w4uJSzOsgOrfz 98MWt6MTh6UzyUygwPRrdnZVbq1c6sP7veIPNoT7/bGrbPQKNCmFx4lHP0BK6muG2u2F rHzA== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouufiiXO8j2rKcBe8sskRq4jyrW5hpy53vnTGa3VinSYQiN7QgJ1Qe0T2wEY2KHdqoQGahvDaRSLkwzNzA== X-Received: by 10.176.82.186 with SMTP id v55mr3644765uav.22.1472095528803; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 20:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.178.71 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 20:24:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Raymond Jennings Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 20:24:48 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Recruiting process (Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care) To: gentoo-dev Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c190fb811e545053adcf326 X-Archives-Salt: fb7b23c8-a4f6-4f83-8565-d0c88f3607ec X-Archives-Hash: ad2f0806cd833f3dbe9481d792d572d4 --94eb2c190fb811e545053adcf326 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Over the years, the base-system package herd has grown in size. Today > it comprises 320 packages, of which 61 of those have more than one > maintainer. The packages with more than one maintainer I'm only > concerned about if the other maintainer is also very busy or not > available. > > Some of these packages are very niche, and while they continue to work, > they could use a bit more attention than they get presently (you might > only hear about them when they break and never when they work). > > They are generally NOT broken and in need of tree-cleaning, but are just > lacking forward momentum (not a few bugs are reasonable upstream bugs or > feature improvements). Many were once shiny and had lots of people that > cared, but that dwindled as they become mundane and just expected to > work. > > General increase in the number of developers in base-system would not be > a bad outcome from this email either ;-). > This...kinda touches on a side issue. I've been a bit waylaid by RL issues during my quest to become a developer myself, and both of my prospective mentors had to step aside for the same reason before the process could finish. I'm a little slow on the quizzes and some recent changes in gentoo invalidated some of my answers, so part of it is my fault for falling behind. But I was kinda wondering, is there anything that can be done to beef up the manpower? Is there any need to? > > Some of this is from stuff I know needs eyeballs, and others are where > the package seems to have more than a few old bugs open. > > Packages in need of review & tweaks or just more eyeballs > ---------------------------------------------------------- > app-admin/sudo (upstream?) > app-admin/sysklogd- (upstream?) > app-shells/bash (upstream?) > dev-util/strace (upstream?) > net-dialup/ppp > net-firewall/iptables > net-fs/nfs-utils (upstream?) > net-misc/dhcpcd (upstream?) > net-misc/dhcp (upstream?) > net-misc/ntp (upstream?) > net-misc/openssh > net-nds/rpcbind > sys-apps/baselayout > sys-apps/coreutils (upstream?) > sys-apps/kbd (upstream?) > sys-block/aoetools > sys-block/iscsitarget > sys-block/open-iscsi > sys-block/thin-provisioning-tools > sys-block/vblade > sys-fs/lvm2 (mostly in regards to genkernel interaction) > sys-fs/multipath-tools > sys-fs/quota > > -- > Robin Hugh Johnson > Gentoo Linux: Dev, Infra Lead, Foundation Trustee & Treasurer > E-Mail : robbat2@gentoo.org > GnuPG FP : 11ACBA4F 4778E3F6 E4EDF38E B27B944E 34884E85 > GnuPG FP : 7D0B3CEB E9B85B1F 825BCECF EE05E6F6 A48F6136 > --94eb2c190fb811e545053adcf326 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On T= ue, Aug 23, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Robin H. Johnson <robbat2@gentoo.org>= wrote:
Over the years, the base-s= ystem package herd has grown in size. Today
it comprises 320 packages, of which 61 of those have more than one
maintainer. The packages with more than one maintainer I'm only
concerned about if the other maintainer is also very busy or not
available.

Some of these packages are very niche, and while they continue to work,
they could use a bit more attention than they get presently (you might
only hear about them when they break and never when they work).

They are generally NOT broken and in need of tree-cleaning, but are just lacking forward momentum (not a few bugs are reasonable upstream bugs or feature improvements). Many were once shiny and had lots of people that
cared, but that dwindled as they become mundane and just expected to
work.

General increase in the number of developers in base-system would not be a bad outcome from this email either ;-).

This...kinda touches on a side issue.=C2=A0 I've been a bit waylaid = by RL issues during my quest to become a developer myself, and both of my p= rospective mentors had to step aside for the same reason before the process= could finish.

I'm a little slow on the quizze= s and some recent changes in gentoo invalidated some of my answers, so part= of it is my fault for falling behind.

But I was kinda wonder= ing, is there anything that can be done to beef up the manpower?=C2=A0 Is t= here any need to?

Some of this is from stuff I know needs eyeballs, and others are where
the package seems to have more than a few old bugs open.

Packages in need of review & tweaks or just more eyeballs
----------------------------------------------------------
app-admin/sudo (upstream?)
app-admin/sysklogd- (upstream?)
app-shells/bash (upstream?)
dev-util/strace (upstream?)
net-dialup/ppp
net-firewall/iptables
net-fs/nfs-utils (upstream?)
net-misc/dhcpcd (upstream?)
net-misc/dhcp (upstream?)
net-misc/ntp (upstream?)
net-misc/openssh
net-nds/rpcbind
sys-apps/baselayout
sys-apps/coreutils (upstream?)
sys-apps/kbd (upstream?)
sys-block/aoetools
sys-block/iscsitarget
sys-block/open-iscsi
sys-block/thin-provisioning-tools
sys-block/vblade
sys-fs/lvm2 (mostly in regards to genkernel interaction)
sys-fs/multipath-tools
sys-fs/quota

--
Robin Hugh Johnson
Gentoo Linux: Dev, Infra Lead, Foundation Trustee & Treasurer
E-Mail=C2=A0 =C2=A0: robbat2@gentoo.o= rg
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