From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF78138AD7 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 09:19:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6BD7D21C00A; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 09:19:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B8A4E0459 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 09:19:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id o1so3211315wic.5 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 01:19:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=/vpOYd0hS+3nVouGUcMbrk7kK8Qx5sY/Da808twNSBY=; b=yc2qVIe8Flkc8gOyHQ1v1CcqIqZhY3z2GeTxOYN1AUZfok5t4HcM8F6ZWiqcbAys16 HgrdWGTuUi6/OsFSrt+lZ3GUk1E+0L21L+UPCF57eQDanC6J6yfCtP2yZWs5/bmG9wvt xgBOUyio/RyxayQ0fThsEaIslhd/1eyVWNb/gljI/8EBGIFlzoOtfvqNAT/Dns2p0sDe Pttm00cSL3jfYxevM8/uphRjnmucH1O0AxitNpx/MX8mPGsw+yOnX1/jgeGo9WQtBc86 VYCgcMGU9+ypUbVYX+H/GbCTi5NgC/EdnnyyBb7UL20iQLzZctBf6COZKTHgD0n5UPe8 tFxA== X-Received: by 10.194.5.4 with SMTP id o4mr10417469wjo.40.1361179163137; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 01:19:23 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markos.chandras@gmail.com Received: by 10.194.155.68 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 01:19:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <51215DCC.7090209@gentoo.org> References: <2415518.JM1V4B20yx@devil> <51215DCC.7090209@gentoo.org> From: Markos Chandras Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 09:19:03 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8EpJbmidB8oBcrra6S7pM2zw2Gs Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] The status of the 'minor' arches in gentoo To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: b2c68999-02d7-4a5c-a942-864a9fd37ba7 X-Archives-Hash: f000da4baf82b736dfc49b8391c1af29 On 17 February 2013 22:46, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 02/17/2013 11:03 AM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote: >> >> In the last time I'm helping some other arches (also arches which I have >> no >> interest) because they appears understaffed. >> >> Days ago, I tried to make a virtual machine with qemu, for SH since the >> dev- >> machine[1] is a bit slow; well, I discovered we have no ISO[2] available >> and >> there is no handbook[3] for it. >> >> The same thing is for S390/S390X/M68K/. So how I am able to install one of >> that _supported_ arches if there isn't any sort of guide? >> >> An interesting fact is that we have an handbook for MIPS[4], a declared >> unsupported architecture (does not make sense for me). > > I am supporting mips for the Lemote loongson2f and for the Atheros AR7161. > I'm trying to get my hands on a godson and Stuart will be sending me two > fulongs, which you can add to that list. Don't let the fact that MIPS is a > ~arch fool you. I don't think we should make it a fully supported arch > because of the number of ISA's and ABI's and endiannesses (if such a word > exists). It is impossible to test for all combos which is what stable > should mean. > > So don't even think of dropping MIPS! Just leave it ~arch and I'll give it > love. I agree with you. MIPS is not going away and the reason we only support ~mips is like you said the vast diversity in hardware and software components. But I think nobody said to drop MIPS right? ;) > > As far as the other arches go, I'm interested in: amd64, arm, mips, ppc, > ppc64 and x86. ppc and ppc64 used to lack manpower. They appear to be in a better state now that Agostino is doing mass stabilisations for them, but I am not sure if the packages are actually tested during runtime or they are just tested for build problems. -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang