From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF25138010 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 14:01:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 73148E096B; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 14:01:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f44.google.com (mail-wg0-f44.google.com [74.125.82.44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A14DE095B for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 14:01:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id z12so491470wgg.35 for ; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 07:01:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=edVyxoB3TFPKpNWteyF9A0UZe38iDdHXHaANraVwO/M=; b=EmWPYBOZOnuflQeDKeaMhhBm9DF7wK/e0hbo/F8NDRbyLfo4f4x5EP7uJYMp+L81Ey w6Al/NraILdoy2vw+AnfBFdrMKhjSxhgXeUWsAiT7aox9TzLV6RydxIgIxTO69VYM66f lG+N7lpSPwP8obN8di7iPzvkscfmmgEjijEhLT7BGm6xcmflpccaqWnNLd34DnjHYZFK K6XfhUBEDlJpsnF0nNhUyITN/ZSAA5fOncHzsQ7ma8WFz1FuF3zXaJ9k5m4AydGnZ1sK cCR3Y6oJbFVC8ZSxwzjov7/glRK8qZR3vfkWoe7+SBOp6IoLXiIBoKPRITK7hmGPqtDq FWlA== X-Received: by 10.194.83.33 with SMTP id n1mr22185750wjy.7.1364911309031; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 07:01:49 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markos.chandras@gmail.com Received: by 10.194.121.136 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 07:01:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130402153403.0a85c0a7@portable> References: <515ACE47.3030206@gentoo.org> <20130402142933.2e76831c@portable> <515ACFDA.4090605@gentoo.org> <20130402143744.532b4ae8@portable> <20130402153403.0a85c0a7@portable> From: Markos Chandras Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 15:01:08 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 01IUc2I38nQPb376rGXMjm7Mk-0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] bash-3.1 stable To: gentoo-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 3f2adb18-d682-4a3b-8b23-0d4dc1a22130 X-Archives-Hash: c50aa5740bc1ef68a8186687693dd02b On 2 April 2013 14:34, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 14:07:16 +0100 > Markos Chandras wrote: > >> On 2 April 2013 13:48, Rich Freeman wrote: >> > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Alexis Ballier >> > wrote: >> >> but what's the problem with keeping it and not breaking older >> >> upgrade paths? >> >> >> > >> > This whole discussion seems a bit academic. Somebody pointed out >> > that we have a version of bash we might not need any longer. If by >> > some miracle the bash maintainers weren't already aware of it, they >> > are now. If they want to keep it around for some reason, who cares? >> > >> > There is enough bikeshedding when it comes to treecleaning the >> > packages that aren't being maintained. I don't think we need to >> > debate the merits of the packages that are. >> > >> > Rich >> > >> >> I couldn't agree more. It is getting really annoying having to debate >> package removals every other day. > > Please take your time to read again. There is no bikeshedding nor > debate in: > - X is not needed anymore because of reasons R > - maybe it's needed for case Y > - case Y is not supported > - it doesn't hurt to support it > > I am very well aware that 'case Y' may not even be possible because of > tons of other problems and was only pointing out that 'reasons R' were > incomplete. > > It is getting really annoying to have non-technical comments pop in > purely technical discussions ;) > > Alexis. > Here we go again. Fine, keep arguing about the really important question "why old X is in the tree when new X is stable". Did anyone actually consider to ask the maintainers instead of opening a public debate on this? I guess no, because bikeshedding in the mailing list is so much better. -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang