From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183431381F3 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 09:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C43ECE0662; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 09:20:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f181.google.com (mail-ob0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67B8EE065A for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 09:19:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f181.google.com with SMTP id oi10so3512499obb.40 for ; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 01:19:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Ih+tjBGN7s1EJDNm78LnF2r4e+2V8xEC5lLPxmeupM8=; b=cNuFuTg7AzbOPOpV1sVzW4q2pPpPD453wPQN5xeRSV8qUx8i7z8Ff6WRoQi4g+FDII 0eNyX3x0Ax3VFebYvXzrSQXOzIiqwLYpjQ9SW3hu13+6yjCZsPBu3LN9QJdYoWRCwaFj NPrHRgpXQpQEpHXz+rDW7vUArfyFHud/8lu1jX7jAaqUtI2Z0W9xB3cibYsCV9siGJfr fWvCFAnimvAMIPrX+oCXzX1Pajpoglp3HYlHzhHykQeTyrhi55dTv2PdrD5CzEIMNTBP d4RKNEkb9k+8Rx7OUf8aZ8cvVlC0wCnADYAZHtYyU8sFMSI21rr957ZTMkIMgkZMoqfy ONOA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.124.98 with SMTP id mh2mr7007069obb.88.1354612783579; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 01:19:43 -0800 (PST) Sender: markos.chandras@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.28.169 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 01:19:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <50BB71DD.4080308@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 09:19:43 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: mybT4AUv93-nrR2oJ0g6B6Qlr6o Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] introduce a soft-limit policy for changing other developers ebuilds From: Markos Chandras To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: e49211ad-3693-4ae1-95c5-d604c531f2cc X-Archives-Hash: 3918eade0530900d358ef5e23269ec06 On 4 December 2012 01:18, Ben de Groot wrote: > On 3 December 2012 03:30, Markos Chandras wrote: >> >> >> On Dec 2, 2012 6:09 PM, "Rich Freeman" wrote: >> > >> > On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 10:21 AM, hasufell wrote: >> > > Only question is now what is a sane soft limit, before you go on and >> > > fix >> > > stuff. >> > > From a discussion in #gentoo-dev we thought 2-4 weeks depending on the >> > > severity of the bug is fine. Ofc this should exclude major changes or >> > > delicate packages from base-system/core/toolchain. >> > >> > Seems reasonable - I'd say 2 weeks is plenty. Of course, if the >> > maintainer explicitly rejects the change in a posting on the bug, then >> > it is hands off without some kind of escalation. Non-maintainers who >> > are concerned about a package can always step up to maintain, as long >> > as it involves real commitment. >> > >> > Oh, and on a side note Markos raises a valid point on the bug about >> > whether the devmanual is a good place for policy. The problem is that >> > I'm not sure we really have a good place, especially with the ebuild >> > docs gone in favor of the devmanual now. >> > >> > Rich >> > >> >> Maybe adding some bits here[1] is preferred instead of the devmanual. >> Unless we agree to make devmanual a technical and non-technical document, >> which I personally don't like because it will end up being huge without some >> sort of indexing/search textbox for quick queries. >> >> [1] >> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=2&chap=2 > > > In my opinion we should limit the amount of places where we document > policies and best practices. I suggest we keep only devmanual and PMS as > authoritative documents. > > In that case we should go forward and add these kind of policies to the > devmanual. > > -- > Cheers, > > Ben | yngwin > Gentoo developer > Gentoo Qt project lead, Gentoo Wiki admin As I said, the only drawback is that devmanual will become huge and without a proper "search" functionality, it will be a real pain to search for something quickly. Especially for new developers who are not familiar with how devmanual is structured. -- Regards, Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2