From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF8F51381F3 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E34221C050; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:05:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-f53.google.com (mail-oa0-f53.google.com [209.85.219.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA37521C039 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:04:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id j6so5221193oag.40 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 11:04:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LWUnhZjNXnaxxUQy6JRCIaG9WRcUc9zw8jOlktedfQU=; b=p+UXSrXmS71h/G+99PdAXPQY5feVRD+UX6tSbC95rZxGK9eyMu6Swca6pEXOwh641Z I/ieTxyNe9GPEC5PGoO5DITOuuabJHgoKMC2AbWklUd20eO6T9Eq0mZFv65Qn+VPY2Oz mz89p43WTn2phLuxgXvyjSg+nzgcpky79wZgViFcHjRU/DkVCdnYppBVcp/KnP4rvPtK /8qXY5IUbP8vcgmMeJ5jGRAq+M6QI4qVI//6MbEdK84vDDYXUdJ30eWOBGxQ1JOJnemo LKwzUbtSfF0DePJwEcosAWkWehkIcvXPUYLOWDOlUBxNlKNPoae4VJPz7ZrbeGXwi/Zl 9PMA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.169.205 with SMTP id ag13mr9856129oec.40.1355684668847; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 11:04:28 -0800 (PST) Sender: markos.chandras@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.28.169 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 11:04:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50CDFD7F.7040207@orlitzky.com> References: <50CDFD7F.7040207@orlitzky.com> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:04:28 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: EuWhGDh0A7X11LGSOMnydaULsOg Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...) From: Markos Chandras To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: 7afcedf7-7be4-4356-ae0c-0fbe4a3efe72 X-Archives-Hash: 65451f7a9a2ea82f1a5bc18e77d7d57b On 16 December 2012 16:57, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > Inspired by the number of packages being unmaintained -- why not use > some of that bug bounty money to fix up the recruitment documentation Recruitment documentatiob? What does that mean? > People still think of Gentoo as a ricer distro that's broken all > the time, when in reality, it's one of the most stable. Well that's not entirely true but that's a different issue > would suspect that anything has changed, though, since the > homepage hasn't since before I could drink beer. > > It makes the entire distro look unmaintained. Note quite. The activity of a distro is measure but the # of devs, packages in tree, activity on bugzilla and mailing lists etc. The design of a website does not really say much. Many foss projects still have static html pages. This does not mean they are dead. The pr@ team recently did a survey for the website etc. You may want to ask them what happened and what's their plan. > > 2. Nowhere is it actually spelled out how to become a developer. > Let's google "how to become a gentoo developer." This takes me > to... > >> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=1&chap=2 > > which as far as I know, is complete bullshit. I should look for an > opening in the monthly newsletter? Really? Or in #gentoo-bugs? Parts of this docs are outdated but this does not matter. Get involved, fix bugs, help people and someone will ask you to join. Or look for a mentor. > > 3. Get off CVS for Christ's sake. Nobody wants to work with that. I > don't know how this fits into my bullet list, but it's important. > I believe this is Irrelevant > All three of those problems are boring and will suck to fix -- perfect > candidates for bug bounties. I don't like the attitude "pay in order to happen". This is a foss project, so people are supposed to see this as a hobby or a learning experience. It is not a job ;) Things are supposed to happen because they are fun -- Regards, Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2