From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SrJJ6-0004TF-CE for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 01:44:04 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 17DB7E04EC; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 01:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f53.google.com (mail-bk0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C241E080B for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 01:28:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkwj4 with SMTP id j4so968696bkw.40 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:28:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kLcn1TDCfVf6aVFHxwkv2q2MThVWBFusKgYCHsEUz+s=; b=BhYofzA7LsxgDkYKrPTCLkDpZlLEq5TzH35oPzgbOdgdDqgSsll7ZP3m0zoHS3JpV4 In9FT7ebW3n+5cFjOE/1rmsuM4aCjsmxm3G4BuAlt65T7huj2juN1PU3NMZ4J8wI6ami jQH9nljKaRw/6dVELxFKf/kDocU0bRTpgUFCQpcUohwRzK3pEi3qdmYr8EZlFBU4Q1Cq Qin04Ms1NwAwrLY85kGQxLUztmqU5G0+Tn0Fx9WL7jAserNvaksoDcdUH8nR7MrRYUv3 MLBY+C0QmgX3CocOKwthckoPqIbbvlhpufnjSBTB+RWSXDjBLI0VezQ8Ql3FguxzhRqG Tjqw== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.156.217 with SMTP id y25mr496802bkw.65.1342574894619; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Sender: jdhore1@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.51.65 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:28:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <50060EBE.3090207@cs.stonybrook.edu> References: <5005D70D.3060108@gentoo.org> <20120717230245.GA17825@linux1> <5005F314.6070805@gentoo.org> <20120718001209.GA18218@linux1> <500604B0.3080809@gentoo.org> <50060EBE.3090207@cs.stonybrook.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:28:14 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: CIgNuta4Jnyd--yqifnB90sBhYY Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Opinion against /usr merge From: Jeff Horelick To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: 44a9b97b-1c94-43a8-b704-2b9aa3643c80 X-Archives-Hash: 8caca5a9dec8becdaeffc1e7471907f4 On 17 July 2012 21:17, Richard Yao wrote: > On 07/17/2012 08:46 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> If we don't do anything, then lots of stuff moves to /usr. I think >> that is what you're missing. The /usr move basically starts happening >> on its own automatically if we DON'T do much. This is because >> upstream is the one pushing it. > > Which upstream is pushing this? So far, only RedHat wants this and their > ability to get various upstreams to try to force it is rather limited. > The only upstream where I have seen any indication that this could be > forced is systemd. > Forgetting that GNOME is mostly managed by RedHat employees, OpenSuSE and Mageia tend to follow RedHat's lead....I can probably go on if I cared to do more research.