From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A17713800E for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 19:04:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 79FEDE0512; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 19:04:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vc0-f181.google.com (mail-vc0-f181.google.com [209.85.220.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9A6E0507 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 19:03:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfl17 with SMTP id fl17so1787333vcb.40 for ; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 12:03:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=Xq4NnvAZfP2u5LsHn0z01zedojZyY7AZiT1ONTQuLEk=; b=PLIoO7KHcZitYtaqL4mhI7gowiUtq+uim2KFfbzbVx/Con2Fu7ju/138P//r1vynZL 4ikvCs0DvSyp9dz7M9Byc43BdRQ74mb90O6fWHg+Q8zkGa2IS9svWoS9lMhbb9lHJp8w lXNW4aNJlVHfS7KzqSkqLxipP2ZkreZ3X/XbRHB9FtanHoKRhVcrbbbBoSkx0dF3+loz YNliOMGNyBuJxegBW57gfX81KvDn0fe3sfLM5qdmHNlc7ApKWTkMANVHEK7fXzMNa5QG 6o57+YM2dRLxaBvCkEFUAEJKnngbgDgQNpnER7k6mXy4G8VPMvYQeEfE818P+/Bqrd9t U5zQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.92.70 with SMTP id ck6mr4002701vdb.16.1344107018335; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 12:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Sender: cardoe@cardoe.com Received: by 10.220.214.209 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 12:03:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <501C5C61.6020001@gentoo.org> References: <50190F67.9060900@gentoo.org> <20120801180721.29f1bd53@pomiocik.lan> <501C5C61.6020001@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 14:03:38 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Kx0gA_WP4aoGVfx2FM2JlzvdIjU Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] force verbose build log as per PMS policy? From: Doug Goldstein To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmGzEXX6evAeis1HEDile65ImjEWOWHk0Ic3OpObA2+vl9CyHS0KtT6m/a74/+t+zgJbLP2 X-Archives-Salt: 12fcee12-b556-4e6a-9fbf-7fcc73e0c61a X-Archives-Hash: 0db0e377fc6d69656e1f603cfa7e32fd On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 6:18 PM, hasufell wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 08/01/2012 06:07 PM, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: >> On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 13:13:43 +0200 hasufell >> wrote: >> >>> We already had a discussion about cmake-utils.eclass and forcing >>> verbose build log for that which was approved: >>> http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_ce7d33748936663e84a5463fbf7f4= d39.xml >>> >>> >>> > Also we have bug https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D384193 and >>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D379497 >>> >>> I opened a tracker >>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D429308 >>> >>> Some devs seem unsure about that or want to have a council vote >>> on that https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D429332 >> >> PMS doesn't have such a thing as a 'policy'. Gentoo can have one, >> and I believe that should be discussed per Gentoo policy. >> > > So that would simply mean we add that information to the devmanual? > > Should I open a bug with a devmanual patch then? FFS, do not spam base-system yet again with stuff that's in the process of being discussed still. Additionally, this is something that should be fixed on the EAPI/eclass level and NOT per package. Putting EXTRA_ECONF=3D"--disable-silent-rules" in EVERY package is epically moronic. Make econf automatically use --disable-silent-rules. --=20 Doug Goldstein