From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7405C1381F3 for ; Sun, 26 May 2013 17:15:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2FAD1E0B64; Sun, 26 May 2013 17:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42F81E0B34 for ; Sun, 26 May 2013 17:14:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-f47.google.com (mail-qa0-f47.google.com [209.85.216.47]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mattst88) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5DC0C33DDD8 for ; Sun, 26 May 2013 17:14:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id o13so659153qaj.20 for ; Sun, 26 May 2013 10:14:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=ubfXx/CJUXmDurr7G91HkS4LDXUVbjXI8+z/lF3Xz5A=; b=ir0TLYU3h17dStGcDz0zceC9aCDO+AQobSFJ1qX3OOkAfeyK5XGVPpNASlcTYg4s+j Rj/Y/wUDBmuB16W+cE5BnfP3NOLDO/f29dkJWhUVcRxc1PFhufe1IgFd+r2jp0e2G9cU PlBQ6BOl1o4uk+7NJJc1hH+KcM8BMBjW8hPk4vWYUcquKVN7rI0mxBe5Ba3iwt9z+C3s x9P2oEXs+JlUR3r60542QO9Wdytw6HK9vhp5fGLppietNQN75CqTbuQuTaBVNQBEIgjr d8CEbfi/5YuPMWqAWYzG1Omz0uiMxzuUPZO8DS/TaJdLYLAiRuTEOvbN6wj8RJUeX3o6 6DPw== X-Received: by 10.224.37.70 with SMTP id w6mr24095474qad.86.1369588495853; Sun, 26 May 2013 10:14:55 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.49.3.227 with HTTP; Sun, 26 May 2013 10:14:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51A23532.8030806@gentoo.org> References: <20130525184830.5bb25483@gentoo.org> <20130526094309.3ed9ac1e@gentoo.org> <51A23532.8030806@gentoo.org> From: Matt Turner Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 10:14:34 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697) To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: 2b3e8cbc-de7d-4cf7-bc26-7c8c3db92a3f X-Archives-Hash: 51c84c8db9c40c2a9981017bc4ff866d On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: > Perhaps this was covered already, but how exactly did this one file, > added by your co-maintainer, hurt you? Did it cause additional bugs? > Did it break a working ebuild? Did it kill your cat? > > It would seem to me that the co-maintainer (a person who cares that some > users are interested in systemd enough to add one file to the package) > made the package support a slightly wider range of systems (gentoo is > about choice) and this affects you in exactly no way. > > What am I missing here? Are you just trying to force your will on > others or do you have an actual issue caused by this commit? It is not > for us developers to force one way on the users, gentoo is supposed to > be about choice, your co-maintainer chose to support systemd, an action > which as far as I can see didn't harm you, and helped some users. This > has been a very long thread for something I don't get at all. Please, > seriously, what am I missing here? Thanks for asking this. After reading the 34 emails in this thread, I still have this question as well.