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From: Matt Turner <mattst88@gentoo.org>
To: Tom Wijsman <TomWij@gentoo.org>
Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 13:21:53 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEdQ38GZYC+6W5=eRfsx8YW4cMFzZ_2E4dbbrvn+JZXo2od=aw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131115215333.4db15ea8@TOMWIJ-GENTOO>

On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Tom Wijsman <TomWij@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 12:25:47 -0800
> Matt Turner <mattst88@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Tom Wijsman <TomWij@gentoo.org>
>> wrote:
>> Imagine I had simply forgotten to unmask the abi_x86_32 USE flag for
>> kbproto but was attempting to emerge unstable (or unmasked abi_x86_32)
>> libXt. In fact, if I un-unmask kbproto (so that abi_x86_32 is masked),
>> unmerge kbproto and attempt to emerge libXt:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy
>> "x11-proto/kbproto[abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?]".
>> !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your
>> request:
>> - x11-libs/libXt-1.1.4::gentoo (Change USE: -abi_x86_32)
>> (dependency required by "x11-libs/libXt-1.1.4" [ebuild])
>> (dependency required by "libXt" [argument])
>>
>> It suggests that I turn off abi_x86_32 for libXt rather than telling
>> me to turn the flag on for kbproto!
>
> Why should it literally suggest you to do something known to be broken?

I don't know what you mean. kbproto[abi_x86_32] isn't known to be
broken. You're asking a really weird question based on some implicit
context that's not available to me.

I'm claiming in this example that attempting to emerge
libXt[abi_x86_32], portage should tell you that abi_x86_32 should be
set for kbproto, rather than telling you to unset abi_x86_32 for libXt
(which you're requesting to be emerged, damn it!).

> It is clear from the output how it wants the dependency to be; so, if
> you want to do something different, you can and the output tells enough.
>
> Due to the complexity of the dependency, you will need `man 5 ebuild`
> though; (-) means to assume it as disabled if it doesn't exist.
>
>> Portage prints other things intelligently:
>>
>> mattst88@dynamic71 ~ % FEATURES=test emerge dev-python/py -vp
>>
>> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>>
>> Calculating dependencies... done!
>>
>>
>> [nomerge       ] dev-python/py-1.4.13  USE="{test}"
>> PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_2 (-pypy2_0) -python2_6
>> (-python3_3)"
>> [ebuild  N     ]  dev-python/pytest-2.3.5  USE="{test} -doc"
>> PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_2 (-pypy2_0) -python2_6
>> (-python3_3)" 417 kB
>> [ebuild  N     ]   dev-python/py-1.4.13  USE="{test}"
>> PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_2 (-pypy2_0) -python2_6
>> (-python3_3)" 185 kB
>>
>> Total: 2 packages (2 new), Size of downloads: 602 kB
>>
>>  * Error: circular dependencies:
>>
>> (dev-python/py-1.4.13::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) depends on
>>  (dev-python/pytest-2.3.5::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
>> (buildtime) (dev-python/py-1.4.13::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
>> merge) (buildtime)
>>
>> It might be possible to break this cycle
>> by applying the following change:
>> - dev-python/py-1.4.13 (Change USE: -test)
>>
>> Note that this change can be reverted, once the package has been
>> installed.
>
> This is just like how you can't compile gcc without having compiled gcc
> with another compiler first (or used a binpkg, or obtained from stage3);
> thus, similarly, you can't test py without having pytest first etc...

I don't think you understood my intention for giving this example.
Portage correctly figures out the proper solution and suggests it. I'm
saying that this is a good thing.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-11-15 21:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-13 10:28 [gentoo-dev] Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 11:39 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-13 13:25   ` Thomas Kahle
2013-11-13 13:37     ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-13 14:00       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-13 14:30       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-11-13 14:55         ` Thomas Kahle
2013-11-13 15:16           ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-13 18:56             ` Daniel Campbell
2013-11-13 20:21               ` James Potts
2013-11-13 21:22                 ` Kent Fredric
2013-11-17 10:20                   ` Sergey Popov
2013-11-13 13:56     ` [gentoo-dev] " Tom Wijsman
2013-11-13 14:38       ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 14:04   ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 14:10 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michał Górny
2013-11-13 15:02   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-13 15:58     ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-13 23:49     ` Patrick Lauer
2013-11-14  5:13       ` Michał Górny
2013-11-14 12:03         ` Patrick Lauer
2013-11-14 12:13           ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-14 12:30             ` Patrick Lauer
2013-11-14 12:45               ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-14 19:07             ` Thomas Sachau
2013-11-14 19:35               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-11-14 23:40                 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-11-14 17:51           ` Michał Górny
2013-11-14 23:38             ` Patrick Lauer
2013-11-14 12:21         ` Ben de Groot
2013-11-14 12:32           ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-14 12:57             ` Ben de Groot
2013-11-14 15:12               ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-14 16:38                 ` Ben de Groot
2013-11-14 17:32                   ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-15  6:53                     ` Ben de Groot
2013-11-15  7:13                       ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-11-15 11:08                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-11-15 14:30                           ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-15 15:30                             ` Duncan
2013-11-15 12:14                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Patrick Lauer
2013-11-15 14:27                         ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-15 13:33                       ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-15 22:39                       ` Michał Górny
2013-11-15 23:06                         ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-16  8:22                         ` Pacho Ramos
2013-11-16 10:57                           ` Thomas Sachau
2013-11-17 16:09                             ` hasufell
2013-11-17 16:35                               ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-17 16:52                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-11-16 12:39                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2013-11-16 12:46                             ` Michał Górny
2013-11-16 20:24                             ` Kent Fredric
2013-11-16 21:52                               ` Michał Górny
2013-11-17  0:53                                 ` Kent Fredric
2013-11-16 22:52                             ` Duncan
2013-11-13 15:23   ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 15:41     ` Mike Gilbert
2013-11-14  0:11       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-13 15:42     ` Kent Fredric
2013-11-13 16:05       ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 17:05         ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2013-11-13 15:44     ` Michał Górny
2013-11-13 16:52       ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 17:03       ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-13 17:49         ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-13 18:24           ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-13 18:50             ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-15  4:56 ` [gentoo-dev] " Matt Turner
2013-11-15  5:23   ` Kent Fredric
2013-11-15 15:54   ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-15 16:05     ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-15 20:18       ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2013-11-15 20:22         ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-16 12:46         ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-11-17 17:04           ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-17 17:15             ` Michał Górny
2013-11-17 18:46               ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-17 19:32                 ` hasufell
2013-11-17 20:16                   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-17 17:24             ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-17 19:10               ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-17 19:57                 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-17 18:56             ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-17 19:18               ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-17 19:27                 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-17 19:51                   ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-17 21:41                     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-11-16 12:50         ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-11-16 12:58           ` Michał Górny
2013-11-17 18:13             ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-11-17 18:18               ` Michał Górny
2013-11-15 19:24   ` [gentoo-dev] " Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 19:24   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 19:31     ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-15 19:36     ` Matt Turner
2013-11-15 20:00   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 20:10     ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-15 20:24       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 20:25     ` Matt Turner
2013-11-15 20:53       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 21:09         ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-15 21:27           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 21:21         ` Matt Turner [this message]
2013-11-15 21:38           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 21:45             ` Matt Turner
2013-11-15 22:08               ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 21:57             ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-15 22:13               ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 22:26                 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-15 22:58                   ` Tom Wijsman

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