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From: Matt Turner <mattst88@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 17:36:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEdQ38FqNLuww1R9ZHwjEMb2r7wuFcs6OrtC9CrTogk-Sf8cig@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5aa46e8fd2c09e8d54c6a9ec71725529.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net>

On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 5:23 PM Eddie Chapman <eddie@ehuk.net> wrote:
> Why would you think that by having an alternative in tree it means that
> everyone else is then forced into doing work that they don't want to and
> it will inconvenience everyone?

Because it's already happened!

commit 6404b064d63d182da4a8a193533a188cdf832d41
Author: Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org>
Date:   Sun Jul 30 14:07:47 2023 -0400

    virtual/libudev: add eudev and sticky-tags USE flags

    eudev lacks API support for the new libudev functions that differentiate
    between sticky and current tags on device events.

    Add a USE flag so we can depend on the new API from libgudev.


commit 319b4ed88674af738bd3fd90e56dc06c88de15db
Author: Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org>
Date:   Sun Jul 30 14:10:44 2023 -0400

    dev-libs/libgudev: depend on virtual/libudev[sticky-tags]


And as a result we have had at least three bug reports from users
complaining that they cannot update:

https://bugs.gentoo.org/913702
https://bugs.gentoo.org/913900
https://bugs.gentoo.org/913954

> What if someone came along now and said
> they were willing to "step up" and maintain eudev and they were suitably
> qualified? Is that really going to force everyone else to modify their
> ways?

It doesn't matter what people say. It matters what they do. And so far
no one has done anything in more than two years to make eudev worth
keeping.

But the core of the issue for me is -- how is eudev even the slightest
bit better in any way than systemd-utils[udev]?


  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-12 21:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-11 15:14 [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev Andreas K. Huettel
2023-09-11 15:22 ` orbea
2023-09-11 15:29   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2023-09-11 15:42     ` orbea
2023-09-11 17:25       ` martin-kokos
2023-09-11 17:45         ` orbea
2023-09-11 19:20       ` Dale
2023-09-11 20:31         ` Sam James
2023-09-11 21:14           ` orbea
2023-09-11 21:21             ` Sam James
2023-09-11 21:29               ` Alexey Sokolov
2023-09-11 21:35                 ` Sam James
2023-09-11 21:43                   ` Alexey Sokolov
2023-09-11 21:51                     ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-11 21:59                       ` Sam James
2023-09-11 21:32               ` orbea
2023-09-11 21:50                 ` Sam James
2023-09-11 22:10                   ` orbea
2023-09-11 22:17                     ` Sam James
2023-09-12  2:34                       ` orbea
2023-09-12  9:18                         ` Rich Freeman
2023-09-12 11:00                           ` Alarig Le Lay
2023-09-14  0:20                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Madhu
2023-09-14  0:47                             ` Alex Boag-Munroe
2023-09-14 14:25                             ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-09-14 14:57                               ` Mike Gilbert
2023-09-14 18:15                                 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-09-11 21:27           ` [gentoo-dev] " Eddie Chapman
2023-09-11 21:41             ` Sam James
2023-09-11 22:22               ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-11 22:27                 ` Sam James
2023-09-12 13:36                   ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-12 13:57                     ` Sam James
2023-09-12 14:12                     ` Rich Freeman
2023-09-12 14:17                       ` Sam James
2023-09-12 15:04                         ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-12 18:47                           ` Matt Turner
2023-09-12 15:35                         ` orbea
2023-09-12 17:23                           ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-12 17:36                             ` orbea
2023-09-12 19:06                               ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-12 19:32                                 ` orbea
2023-09-12 18:53                             ` Matt Turner
2023-09-12 18:58                               ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-12 23:45                             ` karl
2023-09-12 18:51                           ` Matt Turner
2023-09-12 19:05                             ` orbea
2023-09-12 19:56                               ` Eli Schwartz
2023-09-12 20:59                                 ` Dale
2023-09-12 20:37                               ` Matt Turner
2023-09-12 14:55                       ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-12 15:00                         ` Sam James
2023-09-12 19:21                         ` Andreas K. Huettel
2023-09-12 19:47                           ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-12 20:33                             ` Andrew Ammerlaan
2023-09-12 21:23                               ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-12 21:36                                 ` Matt Turner [this message]
2023-09-12 21:45                                   ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-12 21:52                                     ` Matt Turner
2023-09-13  4:35                                       ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-13  4:56                                         ` Eli Schwartz
2023-09-13  5:03                                           ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-13  5:38                                             ` Eli Schwartz
2023-09-13  6:13                                               ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-13  6:19                                                 ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-13  6:40                                                 ` Dale
2023-09-13  6:54                                                   ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-13  7:23                                                     ` Dale
2023-09-12 22:35                                   ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-13  7:55                                 ` Andrew Ammerlaan
2023-09-13  8:10                                   ` Dale
2023-09-16  6:01                                     ` Oskari Pirhonen
2023-09-16  6:09                                       ` Sam James
2023-09-16  7:15                                         ` Dale
2023-09-13  8:13                                   ` Arve Barsnes
2023-09-13 23:49                                   ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-14 14:16                                   ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-14 14:44                                     ` Alex Boag-Munroe
2023-09-14 15:30                                       ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-14 16:09                                         ` Alex Boag-Munroe
2023-09-14 16:50                                           ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-14 17:18                                             ` Alex Boag-Munroe
2023-09-14 18:39                                               ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-14 19:11                                                 ` Alex Boag-Munroe
2023-09-14 17:27                                             ` Rich Freeman
2023-09-14 17:39                                               ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-14 17:52                                                 ` Alex Boag-Munroe
2023-09-14 17:57                                                 ` Rich Freeman
2023-09-14 23:19                                                 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-09-15 15:10                                                   ` orbea
2023-09-15 18:38                                                     ` Alexey Sokolov
2023-09-15 18:56                                                       ` orbea
2023-09-15 22:25                                                         ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-09-15 22:40                                                   ` orbea
2023-09-16  1:12                                                     ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-09-16  9:35                                                     ` David Seifert
2023-09-16 13:32                                                       ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-16 22:03                                                         ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-09-17  9:00                                                           ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-17 10:16                                                             ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-09-17 17:56                                                               ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-17 18:38                                                                 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-09-14 17:20                                       ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-14 17:28                                         ` Alex Boag-Munroe
2023-09-14 17:51                                           ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-14 17:19                                     ` Matt Turner
2023-09-14 17:24                                       ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-13  2:55                             ` Eli Schwartz
2023-09-13  9:05                               ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-13  9:34                                 ` Alexe Stefan
2023-09-13  9:43                                   ` Alex Boag-Munroe
2023-09-13 21:57                                   ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-09-12 14:31                     ` martin-kokos
2023-09-12 15:00                       ` Eddie Chapman
2023-09-12 15:20                         ` Sam James
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-09-13  1:23 Alex Boag-Munroe
2023-09-13  1:48 ` Alex Boag-Munroe
2021-11-27  0:23 [gentoo-dev] Last " Mike Gilbert
2022-08-30  9:52 ` Jaco Kroon
2022-08-30 10:27   ` Arve Barsnes
2022-08-30 12:26     ` Jaco Kroon

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