* [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer @ 2017-07-26 9:56 Pacho Ramos 2017-07-26 10:03 ` Mart Raudsepp ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Pacho Ramos @ 2017-07-26 9:56 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev sys-boot/plymouth is orphan for a long time. Its old 0.8.x versions where having important bugs that were fixed in 0.9.x, but 0.9 is also plenty of issues. Then, either this is adopted by someone able to handle all that issues or we will need to finally treeclean (and drop its support for dependant packages) Thanks ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer 2017-07-26 9:56 [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer Pacho Ramos @ 2017-07-26 10:03 ` Mart Raudsepp 2017-07-26 13:46 ` Lucas Ramage 2017-08-04 14:17 ` Mart Raudsepp 2017-08-10 16:11 ` Matthew Thode 2 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Mart Raudsepp @ 2017-07-26 10:03 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev Ühel kenal päeval, K, 26.07.2017 kell 11:56, kirjutas Pacho Ramos: > sys-boot/plymouth is orphan for a long time. Its old 0.8.x versions > where having > important bugs that were fixed in 0.9.x, but 0.9 is also plenty of > issues. Then, > either this is adopted by someone able to handle all that issues or > we will need > to finally treeclean (and drop its support for dependant packages) I wasn't aware it had issues or lacked a maintainer. I hope this call will find a dedicated maintainer; if not, I will pick this up later. But I do hope it finds someone else, as my plates are rather full. I don't use it yet because then I wouldn't be able to test fixes or write fixes to bug 613222 as plymouth would workaround this. After that bug is fixed, I plan to use plymouth together with dracut+disk encryption, etc. So if no-one steps up in the meantime, please don't remove the work already there (I also know people that use it successfully as-is). But I hope someone else does step up, please! Mart ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer 2017-07-26 10:03 ` Mart Raudsepp @ 2017-07-26 13:46 ` Lucas Ramage 2017-07-27 8:40 ` Pacho Ramos 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Lucas Ramage @ 2017-07-26 13:46 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1254 bytes --] I am not yet an official developer but I am interested in assisting in maintaining this. On Wed, Jul 26, 2017, 6:04 AM Mart Raudsepp <leio@gentoo.org> wrote: > Ühel kenal päeval, K, 26.07.2017 kell 11:56, kirjutas Pacho Ramos: > > sys-boot/plymouth is orphan for a long time. Its old 0.8.x versions > > where having > > important bugs that were fixed in 0.9.x, but 0.9 is also plenty of > > issues. Then, > > either this is adopted by someone able to handle all that issues or > > we will need > > to finally treeclean (and drop its support for dependant packages) > > I wasn't aware it had issues or lacked a maintainer. > > I hope this call will find a dedicated maintainer; if not, I will pick > this up later. But I do hope it finds someone else, as my plates are > rather full. > > I don't use it yet because then I wouldn't be able to test fixes or > write fixes to bug 613222 as plymouth would workaround this. After that > bug is fixed, I plan to use plymouth together with dracut+disk > encryption, etc. > > So if no-one steps up in the meantime, please don't remove the work > already there (I also know people that use it successfully as-is). But > I hope someone else does step up, please! > > > Mart > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1579 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer 2017-07-26 13:46 ` Lucas Ramage @ 2017-07-27 8:40 ` Pacho Ramos 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Pacho Ramos @ 2017-07-27 8:40 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev El mié, 26-07-2017 a las 13:46 +0000, Lucas Ramage escribió: > I am not yet an official developer but I am interested in assisting in > maintaining this. > Then, please take a look on: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Proxy_Maintainers In summary, you will need to open a bug asking proxy-maint to set you as maintainer and, for fixing bugs, usually sending github PR is the preferred method Thanks ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer 2017-07-26 9:56 [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer Pacho Ramos 2017-07-26 10:03 ` Mart Raudsepp @ 2017-08-04 14:17 ` Mart Raudsepp 2017-08-04 14:23 ` Lucas Ramage 2017-08-09 3:08 ` [gentoo-dev] " Matthew Thode 2017-08-10 16:11 ` Matthew Thode 2 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Mart Raudsepp @ 2017-08-04 14:17 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev On K, 2017-07-26 at 11:56 +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: > sys-boot/plymouth is orphan for a long time. Its old 0.8.x versions > where having > important bugs that were fixed in 0.9.x, but 0.9 is also plenty of > issues. Then, > either this is adopted by someone able to handle all that issues or > we will need > to finally treeclean (and drop its support for dependant packages) So despite this thread, this got suddenly p.masked. It seems most issues are related to usage with OpenRC, plus some stopping issue with sddm. I can soon look into the systemd aspects, but are there anyone interested in the openrc use case, to help out there? Mart ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer 2017-08-04 14:17 ` Mart Raudsepp @ 2017-08-04 14:23 ` Lucas Ramage 2017-08-04 14:37 ` Mart Raudsepp 2017-08-09 3:08 ` [gentoo-dev] " Matthew Thode 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Lucas Ramage @ 2017-08-04 14:23 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 830 bytes --] I am looking into this for openrc. I copied it over to my personal overlay. On Fri, Aug 4, 2017, 10:17 AM Mart Raudsepp <leio@gentoo.org> wrote: > On K, 2017-07-26 at 11:56 +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > sys-boot/plymouth is orphan for a long time. Its old 0.8.x versions > > where having > > important bugs that were fixed in 0.9.x, but 0.9 is also plenty of > > issues. Then, > > either this is adopted by someone able to handle all that issues or > > we will need > > to finally treeclean (and drop its support for dependant packages) > > So despite this thread, this got suddenly p.masked. > > It seems most issues are related to usage with OpenRC, plus some > stopping issue with sddm. > > I can soon look into the systemd aspects, but are there anyone > interested in the openrc use case, to help out there? > > > Mart > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1150 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer 2017-08-04 14:23 ` Lucas Ramage @ 2017-08-04 14:37 ` Mart Raudsepp 2017-08-04 14:43 ` Lars Wendler 2017-08-05 2:16 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka 0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Mart Raudsepp @ 2017-08-04 14:37 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev On R, 2017-08-04 at 14:23 +0000, Lucas Ramage wrote: > I am looking into this for openrc. I copied it over to my personal > overlay. Ok, how about I mark myself as maintainer then and add you as co -maintainer for OpenRC aspects, and you can e-mail me fixes for openrc or otherwise? sys-boot/plymouth-openrc-plugin is involved in that OpenRC support too still, right? I'm not sure about kde-plasma/breeze-plymouth kde-plasma/plymouth-kcm do you use KDE/Plasma to care for those too? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer 2017-08-04 14:37 ` Mart Raudsepp @ 2017-08-04 14:43 ` Lars Wendler 2017-08-04 15:08 ` Mart Raudsepp 2017-08-05 2:16 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Lars Wendler @ 2017-08-04 14:43 UTC (permalink / raw To: Mart Raudsepp; +Cc: gentoo-dev [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 876 bytes --] On Fri, 04 Aug 2017 17:37:15 +0300 Mart Raudsepp wrote: >On R, 2017-08-04 at 14:23 +0000, Lucas Ramage wrote: >> I am looking into this for openrc. I copied it over to my personal >> overlay. > >Ok, how about I mark myself as maintainer then and add you as co >-maintainer for OpenRC aspects, and you can e-mail me fixes for openrc >or otherwise? Last time I checked, plymouth-0.9.x had a hard requirement for systemd to work. From what I remember, making 0.9.x versions work with openrc might become a hard to solve task. >sys-boot/plymouth-openrc-plugin is involved in that OpenRC support too >still, right? > >I'm not sure about >kde-plasma/breeze-plymouth >kde-plasma/plymouth-kcm >do you use KDE/Plasma to care for those too? > > Lars -- Lars Wendler Gentoo package maintainer GPG: 21CC CF02 4586 0A07 ED93 9F68 498F E765 960E 9B39 [-- Attachment #2: Digitale Signatur von OpenPGP --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 833 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer 2017-08-04 14:43 ` Lars Wendler @ 2017-08-04 15:08 ` Mart Raudsepp 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Mart Raudsepp @ 2017-08-04 15:08 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev On R, 2017-08-04 at 16:43 +0200, Lars Wendler wrote: > On Fri, 04 Aug 2017 17:37:15 +0300 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > > On R, 2017-08-04 at 14:23 +0000, Lucas Ramage wrote: > > > I am looking into this for openrc. I copied it over to my > > > personal > > > overlay. > > > > Ok, how about I mark myself as maintainer then and add you as co > > -maintainer for OpenRC aspects, and you can e-mail me fixes for > > openrc > > or otherwise? > > Last time I checked, plymouth-0.9.x had a hard requirement for > systemd > to work. From what I remember, making 0.9.x versions work with openrc > might become a hard to solve task. > If Lucas concludes that, I guess he could maintain a restored 0.8.x, while there's 0.9.x systemd version maintained by me and hopefully others (help still welcome, I'm still waiting on bug 613222, but might be able to convert another machine earlier to plymouth). Personally I've always connected plymouth with systemd and I'm surprised some open OpenRC bugs were triggering treecleaning, but yes, having a maintainer is always good as there are some service bug open too, but so it is for the countless other maintainer-needed packages we have around. Mart ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* [gentoo-dev] Re: sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer 2017-08-04 14:37 ` Mart Raudsepp 2017-08-04 14:43 ` Lars Wendler @ 2017-08-05 2:16 ` Michael Palimaka 2017-08-05 3:16 ` M. J. Everitt 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Michael Palimaka @ 2017-08-05 2:16 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev On 08/05/2017 12:37 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > On R, 2017-08-04 at 14:23 +0000, Lucas Ramage wrote: >> I am looking into this for openrc. I copied it over to my personal >> overlay. > > Ok, how about I mark myself as maintainer then and add you as co > -maintainer for OpenRC aspects, and you can e-mail me fixes for openrc > or otherwise? > sys-boot/plymouth-openrc-plugin is involved in that OpenRC support too > still, right? > > I'm not sure about > kde-plasma/breeze-plymouth > kde-plasma/plymouth-kcm > do you use KDE/Plasma to care for those too? These two are still maintained by KDE team, they just got masked (without asking by the way...) because they depend on plymouth. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer 2017-08-05 2:16 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka @ 2017-08-05 3:16 ` M. J. Everitt 2017-08-05 11:36 ` Lucas Ramage 2017-08-05 20:06 ` Matt Turner 0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: M. J. Everitt @ 2017-08-05 3:16 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 908 bytes --] On 05/08/17 03:16, Michael Palimaka wrote: > On 08/05/2017 12:37 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: >> On R, 2017-08-04 at 14:23 +0000, Lucas Ramage wrote: >>> I am looking into this for openrc. I copied it over to my personal >>> overlay. >> Ok, how about I mark myself as maintainer then and add you as co >> -maintainer for OpenRC aspects, and you can e-mail me fixes for openrc >> or otherwise? >> sys-boot/plymouth-openrc-plugin is involved in that OpenRC support too >> still, right? >> >> I'm not sure about >> kde-plasma/breeze-plymouth >> kde-plasma/plymouth-kcm >> do you use KDE/Plasma to care for those too? > These two are still maintained by KDE team, they just got masked > (without asking by the way...) because they depend on plymouth. > You mean to say treecleaners and QA should actually contact maintainers before wielding their chainsaws ?? Musta missed that policy doc ... [-- Attachment #2: OpenPGP digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 862 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer 2017-08-05 3:16 ` M. J. Everitt @ 2017-08-05 11:36 ` Lucas Ramage 2017-08-05 20:06 ` Matt Turner 1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Lucas Ramage @ 2017-08-05 11:36 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1079 bytes --] I can do that. I'll have some free time this coming week to work on this. On Fri, Aug 4, 2017, 11:17 PM M. J. Everitt <m.j.everitt@iee.org> wrote: > On 05/08/17 03:16, Michael Palimaka wrote: > > On 08/05/2017 12:37 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > >> On R, 2017-08-04 at 14:23 +0000, Lucas Ramage wrote: > >>> I am looking into this for openrc. I copied it over to my personal > >>> overlay. > >> Ok, how about I mark myself as maintainer then and add you as co > >> -maintainer for OpenRC aspects, and you can e-mail me fixes for openrc > >> or otherwise? > >> sys-boot/plymouth-openrc-plugin is involved in that OpenRC support too > >> still, right? > >> > >> I'm not sure about > >> kde-plasma/breeze-plymouth > >> kde-plasma/plymouth-kcm > >> do you use KDE/Plasma to care for those too? > > These two are still maintained by KDE team, they just got masked > > (without asking by the way...) because they depend on plymouth. > > > You mean to say treecleaners and QA should actually contact maintainers > before wielding their chainsaws ?? Musta missed that policy doc ... > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1485 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer 2017-08-05 3:16 ` M. J. Everitt 2017-08-05 11:36 ` Lucas Ramage @ 2017-08-05 20:06 ` Matt Turner 1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Matt Turner @ 2017-08-05 20:06 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo development On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 8:16 PM, M. J. Everitt <m.j.everitt@iee.org> wrote: > You mean to say treecleaners and QA should actually contact maintainers > before wielding their chainsaws ?? Musta missed that policy doc ... Can you please stop? You're contributing nothing but noise to this mailing list. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer 2017-08-04 14:17 ` Mart Raudsepp 2017-08-04 14:23 ` Lucas Ramage @ 2017-08-09 3:08 ` Matthew Thode 2017-08-10 13:23 ` Lucas Ramage 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Matthew Thode @ 2017-08-09 3:08 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 985 bytes --] On 17-08-04 17:17:05, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > On K, 2017-07-26 at 11:56 +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > sys-boot/plymouth is orphan for a long time. Its old 0.8.x versions > > where having > > important bugs that were fixed in 0.9.x, but 0.9 is also plenty of > > issues. Then, > > either this is adopted by someone able to handle all that issues or > > we will need > > to finally treeclean (and drop its support for dependant packages) > > So despite this thread, this got suddenly p.masked. > > It seems most issues are related to usage with OpenRC, plus some > stopping issue with sddm. > > I can soon look into the systemd aspects, but are there anyone > interested in the openrc use case, to help out there? > > > Mart > I've reverted the p.mask commit and added myself to the metadata for plymouth (not the openrc plugin). I've also poked upstream for a new tag since it's been a while and they are active... -- Matthew Thode (prometheanfire) [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 833 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer 2017-08-09 3:08 ` [gentoo-dev] " Matthew Thode @ 2017-08-10 13:23 ` Lucas Ramage 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Lucas Ramage @ 2017-08-10 13:23 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1536 bytes --] This may take me some time. The live cd doesn't even seem to use this. And that plugin is unmaintained so I forked it. On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:08 PM, Matthew Thode <prometheanfire@gentoo.org> wrote: > On 17-08-04 17:17:05, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > On K, 2017-07-26 at 11:56 +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > sys-boot/plymouth is orphan for a long time. Its old 0.8.x versions > > > where having > > > important bugs that were fixed in 0.9.x, but 0.9 is also plenty of > > > issues. Then, > > > either this is adopted by someone able to handle all that issues or > > > we will need > > > to finally treeclean (and drop its support for dependant packages) > > > > So despite this thread, this got suddenly p.masked. > > > > It seems most issues are related to usage with OpenRC, plus some > > stopping issue with sddm. > > > > I can soon look into the systemd aspects, but are there anyone > > interested in the openrc use case, to help out there? > > > > > > Mart > > > > I've reverted the p.mask commit and added myself to the metadata for > plymouth (not the openrc plugin). I've also poked upstream for a new > tag since it's been a while and they are active... > > -- > Matthew Thode (prometheanfire) > -- Regards, [image: View my Portfolio] <https://lramage94.github.io> Lucas Ramage / Software Engineer ramage.lucas94@gmail.com / (941)-467-2354 Visit online journal lramage94.github.io [image: Google Plus] <https://plus.google.com/+LucasRamage>[image: Linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/pub/lucas-ramage/4a/719/757> [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 4666 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer 2017-07-26 9:56 [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer Pacho Ramos 2017-07-26 10:03 ` Mart Raudsepp 2017-08-04 14:17 ` Mart Raudsepp @ 2017-08-10 16:11 ` Matthew Thode 2017-08-18 0:56 ` Lucas Ramage 2 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Matthew Thode @ 2017-08-10 16:11 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 676 bytes --] On 17-07-26 11:56:39, Pacho Ramos wrote: > sys-boot/plymouth is orphan for a long time. Its old 0.8.x versions where having > important bugs that were fixed in 0.9.x, but 0.9 is also plenty of issues. Then, > either this is adopted by someone able to handle all that issues or we will need > to finally treeclean (and drop its support for dependant packages) > > Thanks > I did take sys-boot/plymouth, set up notifications for new releases so packaging will be somewhat automated. Also prodded upstream to release 0.9.3 (which they did) and packaged it. Updated to eapi6 as well, tested booting on systemd, worksforme. -- Matthew Thode (prometheanfire) [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 833 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer 2017-08-10 16:11 ` Matthew Thode @ 2017-08-18 0:56 ` Lucas Ramage 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Lucas Ramage @ 2017-08-18 0:56 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1062 bytes --] Hello, I am still working on this. Alpine linux uses Plymouth 9.2 and OpenRC so I am just going to try to use that. I don't have a ton of spare time so if anyone else would like to help here is their APKBUILD. https://git.alpinelinux.org/cgit/aports/tree/community/plymouth/APKBUILD On Thu, Aug 10, 2017, 12:12 PM Matthew Thode <prometheanfire@gentoo.org> wrote: > On 17-07-26 11:56:39, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > sys-boot/plymouth is orphan for a long time. Its old 0.8.x versions > where having > > important bugs that were fixed in 0.9.x, but 0.9 is also plenty of > issues. Then, > > either this is adopted by someone able to handle all that issues or we > will need > > to finally treeclean (and drop its support for dependant packages) > > > > Thanks > > > > I did take sys-boot/plymouth, set up notifications for new releases so > packaging will be somewhat automated. Also prodded upstream to release > 0.9.3 (which they did) and packaged it. Updated to eapi6 as well, > tested booting on systemd, worksforme. > > -- > Matthew Thode (prometheanfire) > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1497 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
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