From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67C71380DC for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 03:28:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E1421E0AEC; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 03:28:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF25AE0AC1 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 03:28:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-f52.google.com (mail-qa0-f52.google.com [209.85.216.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mattst88) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1BDB333F90B for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 03:28:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id j15so13883101qaq.11 for ; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 19:28:48 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=PrKGHyc25KUXjLZYAp/FvRoDIkUa50Tevi3WtzZR3QU=; b=W8kwmRjrY/Z3OYCS9n+TFxbeuulZIxfzCa9+DykjP1Gq1NvEegCbrTceGWzbavB1YI jTgDtMjHKekATmYQ3LWPEYI683Yxsdpz3lQiZBAyBo3Qi8Td7Dk0nBn7U5PP2tBJYsqs Y6+QgfrlBeVqgrL8KgawhbNNrgiz1oLUn/u17mxnjw6AlwWyMkIXE9i+1nIA9kF7QoJm IP7Yne9fTz1ka9vk/bLkr5XLTlv05gWOIl/aPXAiJU69Te/blcy563d4uZV4Lmt3ISt8 OXTTZpOTJ2Y77W/OaPaWCL9jsQfMPSQsvQDZ6E8GajvETNvGj/YTF+jKpEVwirA/+hjZ W3Iw== X-Received: by 10.140.102.167 with SMTP id w36mr25102408qge.109.1391570928308; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 19:28:48 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.8.198 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 19:28:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1391570147.3520.7.camel@oswin.hackershack.net> References: <52E7DBC1.5020102@gentoo.org> <20140128182304.7d458a17@marga.jer-c2.orkz.net> <20140203062524.GA7467@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> <20140203104341.2add2760@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20140204210319.GA1935@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> <20140205010833.1bcf8dca@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <1391559808.3520.2.camel@oswin.hackershack.net> <20140205020742.048cef9f@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <1391564122.3520.4.camel@oswin.hackershack.net> <20140205024806.7d08cb63@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <1391570147.3520.7.camel@oswin.hackershack.net> From: Matt Turner Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 19:28:28 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: dropping redundant stable keywords To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: 2dd4a95a-a910-45d3-85bf-1cc4e3cb7169 X-Archives-Hash: 6bcc2f521d27f70dd7a4acd001cae8e3 On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Steev Klimaszewski wrote: > On Wed, 2014-02-05 at 02:48 +0100, Tom Wijsman wrote: >> On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 19:35:22 -0600 >> Steev Klimaszewski wrote: >> >> > Alright, well, I've tried my best, I give up. Instead of having >> > something working we should just remove ebuilds of working packages. >> >> s/should/could/ s/ebuilds/stable keyword or last stable version/ >> >> It is at the maintainer's discretion; and such decision is to make >> it possible for a maintainer to move on when he or she can no longer >> guarantee a working ebuild, to stop being progress-blocked by it. >> > > You know what - this is pure and utter bullshit. Keeping it around for > "slower" arches does NOT block progress. I have intimate knowledge with > what ACTUALLY happens when people pull this bullshit - and that is a > system that I can no longer actually work on. And instead of working > towards a fix that actually works for people who are ACTUALLY affected > by the shitty policy, you hide behind definitions and pedantry. > > I'm now going to take a break from Gentoo development because this > thread has seriously caused my blood to boil based on comments from the > peanut gallery (you) where things don't actually affect your day to day > work, but your actions do affect mine. I'm with you. I've drafted and thrown away so many replies to Tom in this thread. Thanks for putting up with it, but it's a huge waste of your time.