From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB71C138330 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 17:12:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA611E091E; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 17:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79049E0907 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 17:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io0-f178.google.com (mail-io0-f178.google.com [209.85.223.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mattst88) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5099B335C3E for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 17:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io0-f178.google.com with SMTP id v30so184745iov.7 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 09:12:03 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: AKwxyteRuhC7TovSmCdK4BqOoy8q+YayXu6rHhFFfZa0yT6+MY0YyzwT oTLttD/vBarPdtSaPZrkPTs48mG5zUX55oWck5w= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBotH3ZAKBJ3IwmDGf4mdBoWMLxLXxjbRFS9/XIrZhxBhOCgaD50O9ZiLaxGdJHOIQk/BcoQJlZsfH83ehbjMeH0= X-Received: by 10.107.88.7 with SMTP id m7mr17553498iob.180.1515604321524; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 09:12:01 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.2.180.80 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 09:11:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1515578120.1284.5.camel@gentoo.org> References: <1685019.DAF74n7IXa@pinacolada> <1515578120.1284.5.camel@gentoo.org> From: Matt Turner Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 09:11:40 -0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list To: gentoo development Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 2d8e7a9b-731b-4aa8-9a81-f2d35daca729 X-Archives-Hash: b79c4a300f896cb31557110ce646ebde On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny = wrote: > W dniu wto, 09.01.2018 o godzinie 17=E2=88=B608=E2=80=89-0800, u=C5=BCytk= ownik Matt Turner > napisa=C5=82: >> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >> > During the last Gentoo council meeting, the decision was made to imple= ment >> > changes to the gentoo-dev mailing list [1]. >> > >> > These changes affect only the gentoo-dev mailing list, and will come i= nto >> > effect on 23 January 2018. >> > >> > * Subscribing to the list and receiving list mail remains as it is now= . >> > * Posting to the list will only be possible to Gentoo developers and >> > whitelisted additional participants. >> > * Whitelisting requires that one developer vouches for you. We intend = this >> > to be as unbureaucratic as possible. >> > * Obviously, repeated off-topic posting as well as behaviour against t= he >> > Code of Conduct [2] will lead to revocation of the posting permissio= n. >> > >> > If, as a non-developer, you want to participate in a discussion on >> > gentoo-dev, >> > - either reply directly to the author of a list mail and ask him/her t= o >> > forward your message, >> > - or ask any Gentoo developer of your choice to get you whitelisted. >> > >> > If, as a developer, you want to have someone whitelisted, please comme= nt on >> > bug 644070 [3]. Similar to Bugzilla editbugs permission, if you are vo= uching >> > for a contributor you are expected to keep an eye on their activity. >> >> It seems like the obvious way this fails is some Gentoo developer acks >> one of the problem people. I don't think that's particularly unlikely. >> Then what do we do? >> > > Then it becomes comrel business. If that was an effective solution, wouldn't the problem already be solved?