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From: Matt Turner <mattst88@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo development <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ChangeLog
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 17:52:23 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEdQ38EXO=i07oQOD76BUjf3mDJX6zprO386+rnGEcAy7SBv6w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56380BED.3000209@gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> hasufell wrote:
>> On 11/02/2015 10:54 PM, Dale wrote:
>>> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 14:00:18 -0600
>>>> Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Rich Freeman wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Then perhaps all this should have been worked out BEFORE switching
>>>>>>> to github?
>>>>>> We didn't switch to github.
>>>>> Then why are people saying to use git to look at the logs?   I don't
>>>>> want to use git.
>>>> git != github...
>>>>
>>>>> I liked being able to go to the tree and look at the
>>>>> change logs when I needed to which is sometimes often.
>>>> I think you have a technology comprehension problem here, rather than a
>>>> technology problem. The problem is your workflow, not the tools.
>>>>
>>> What I understand is this.  The logs since github started being used are
>>> no longer updated like they used to be.  I realize that git is a command
>>> but it seems that git gets its info from github since the logs are no
>>> longer downloaded when I sync the tree.
>> No. You should really read some tutorials/introductions on git to
>> understand how it works and this ML isn't the place for that. It's not
>> like SVN, so you don't even need an internet connection for the tree to
>> work (e.g. if you've copied it via USB even). Github is totally
>> unrelated here.
>>
>>
>
>
> So you are telling me that people using github and the switch that took
> place has absolutely nothing to do with the changelogs going dead?

You keep saying GitHub. Github is not relevant to this discussion.

Yes, the ChangeLogs stopped being updated because of git.

The git transition had been 9 years in the making and has massively
improved Gentoo development. Look at the graph of contributions per
month: https://www.openhub.net/p/gentoo

It was decided that the missing infrastructure for ChangeLogs was not
a sufficient reason to block a hugely important change.

People care about finishing this, as evidence by this thread. Please
stop complaining.


  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-03  1:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-01 12:16 [gentoo-dev] ChangeLog Patrick Lauer
2015-11-01 12:22 ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-11-02 20:05   ` Daniel Campbell
2015-11-02 20:22     ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2015-11-02 21:17       ` Aaron W. Swenson
2015-11-03  4:24         ` Jeroen Roovers
2015-11-03 14:33           ` Aaron W. Swenson
2015-11-01 12:33 ` Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим
2015-11-01 12:53   ` Rich Freeman
2015-11-01 13:25     ` Patrick Lauer
2015-11-03 21:17       ` Pacho Ramos
2015-11-01 13:24 ` hasufell
2015-11-01 13:28   ` Patrick Lauer
2015-11-01 13:33     ` hasufell
2015-11-01 13:47       ` Alexis Ballier
2015-11-01 13:53         ` hasufell
2015-11-04  8:56           ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-11-04 16:18             ` hasufell
2015-11-04 16:28               ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2015-11-04 16:33               ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2015-11-04 16:38                 ` hasufell
2015-11-04 16:44                   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2015-11-04 17:23                     ` hasufell
2015-11-01 14:19         ` Rich Freeman
2015-11-01 15:00           ` Alexis Ballier
2015-11-01 15:17             ` Rich Freeman
2015-11-01 15:24               ` Alexis Ballier
2015-11-01 17:26                 ` Rich Freeman
2015-11-01 22:10                   ` Alexis Ballier
2015-11-01 15:29           ` [gentoo-dev] ChangeLog Martin Vaeth
2015-11-01 17:31             ` Rich Freeman
2015-11-01 13:51       ` [gentoo-dev] ChangeLog Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим
2015-11-01 13:57         ` hasufell
2015-11-01 16:01           ` [gentoo-dev] ChangeLog Martin Vaeth
2015-11-01 16:19             ` Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим
2015-11-01 16:30               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-11-01 16:34                 ` Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим
2015-11-01 20:33                   ` Martin Vaeth
2015-11-01 20:38                     ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2015-11-01 20:59                     ` Rich Freeman
2015-11-01 21:26                       ` Martin Vaeth
2015-11-01 20:24               ` Martin Vaeth
2015-11-02 12:10                 ` Tobias Klausmann
2015-11-01 22:38               ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2015-11-01 16:11           ` [gentoo-dev] ChangeLog Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим
2015-11-01 22:30 ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-02  1:22 ` [gentoo-dev] ChangeLog Duncan
2015-11-02  1:56   ` Rich Freeman
2015-11-02  6:08     ` Dale
2015-11-02 12:06       ` Rich Freeman
2015-11-02 20:00         ` Dale
2015-11-02 20:09           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-11-02 21:54             ` Dale
2015-11-02 22:02               ` hasufell
2015-11-03  1:20                 ` Dale
2015-11-03  1:52                   ` Matt Turner [this message]
2015-11-03  2:15                     ` Dale
2015-11-03  7:22                     ` Patrick Lauer
2015-11-03 12:00                       ` Rich Freeman
2015-11-03 15:04                     ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2015-11-03 15:16                       ` hasufell
2015-11-03 15:28                       ` Rich Freeman
2015-11-05 14:33                       ` Alexis Ballier
2015-11-07  4:25                         ` Raymond Jennings
2015-11-07 22:24                           ` Robin H. Johnson
2015-11-03  2:12                   ` Rich Freeman
2015-11-03  2:31                     ` Dale
2015-11-03  3:17                       ` Rich Freeman
2015-11-03  6:43                         ` Duncan
2015-11-03  6:52                           ` Duncan
2015-11-03 11:41                           ` Rich Freeman
2015-11-03  8:07                         ` Dale
2015-11-03  2:32                     ` Dale
2015-11-02 21:40           ` Daniel Campbell
2015-11-02  6:24     ` Patrick Lauer
2015-11-02 12:17       ` Rich Freeman
2015-11-02  8:04     ` Duncan
2015-11-02  2:04   ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-02  6:27     ` Patrick Lauer
2015-11-02 15:04       ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-14 16:36         ` Peter Stuge
2015-11-02  5:50 ` [gentoo-dev] ChangeLog - Infra Response Robin H. Johnson
2015-11-02  6:18   ` Michał Górny
2015-11-02  7:05   ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-11-02 20:18     ` Robin H. Johnson
2015-11-05 11:54       ` Alexis Ballier
2015-11-05 12:39         ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-11-07 23:07           ` Markos Chandras
2015-11-08 11:34         ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-11-11 23:11         ` [gentoo-dev] ChangeLog - Infra Response; update 2015/11/11, potential impact to 30min rsync cycle Robin H. Johnson
2015-11-12  2:08           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2015-11-12 10:46           ` [gentoo-dev] " Alexis Ballier
2015-11-12 10:49             ` Jason Zaman
2015-11-12 10:52               ` Alexis Ballier
2015-11-12 10:57               ` Alexander Tsoy
2015-11-12 11:50                 ` Alexander Tsoy
2015-11-12 11:12               ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-11-15  8:01                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2015-11-14 17:01           ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Stuge
2015-11-18 14:48             ` Peter Stuge
2015-11-18 17:55               ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-18 18:01                 ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-02 16:37   ` [gentoo-dev] ChangeLog - Infra Response Brian Dolbec

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