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From: Matt Turner <mattst88@gentoo.org>
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 17:52:04 -0400
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev
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On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 5:45=E2=80=AFPM Alexe Stefan <stefanalexe48@gmail.c=
om> wrote:
>
> On 9/13/23, Matt Turner <mattst88@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 5:23=E2=80=AFPM Eddie Chapman <eddie@ehuk.net> =
wrote:
> >> Why would you think that by having an alternative in tree it means tha=
t
> >> everyone else is then forced into doing work that they don't want to a=
nd
> >> it will inconvenience everyone?
> >
> > Because it's already happened!
> >
> > commit 6404b064d63d182da4a8a193533a188cdf832d41
> > Author: Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org>
> > Date: Sun Jul 30 14:07:47 2023 -0400
> >
> > virtual/libudev: add eudev and sticky-tags USE flags
> >
> > eudev lacks API support for the new libudev functions that
> > differentiate
> > between sticky and current tags on device events.
> >
> > Add a USE flag so we can depend on the new API from libgudev.
> >
> >
> > commit 319b4ed88674af738bd3fd90e56dc06c88de15db
> > Author: Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org>
> > Date: Sun Jul 30 14:10:44 2023 -0400
> >
> > dev-libs/libgudev: depend on virtual/libudev[sticky-tags]
> >
> >
> > And as a result we have had at least three bug reports from users
> > complaining that they cannot update:
> >
> > https://bugs.gentoo.org/913702
> > https://bugs.gentoo.org/913900
> > https://bugs.gentoo.org/913954
> >
> >> What if someone came along now and said
> >> they were willing to "step up" and maintain eudev and they were suitab=
ly
> >> qualified? Is that really going to force everyone else to modify their
> >> ways?
> >
> > It doesn't matter what people say. It matters what they do. And so far
> > no one has done anything in more than two years to make eudev worth
> > keeping.
> >
> > But the core of the issue for me is -- how is eudev even the slightest
> > bit better in any way than systemd-utils[udev]?
> >
> >
>
> Is it such a burden to make a couple of commits once in a while?
I see no commits from your email address in gentoo.git, so that might
be a question for you.
> How many commits were made in the last year to accommodate eudev?
I'm not your monkey.
> Regarding the bugs, what else did you expect when no news item was given?
Right, we should have done something *else* to keep eudev going.
Welcome to my killfile.