From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RPchM-0008FQ-SV for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:14:28 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B1F121C0D8; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:14:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vx0-f181.google.com (mail-vx0-f181.google.com [209.85.220.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E490821C035 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:13:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfk26 with SMTP id fk26so8778333vcb.40 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:13:45 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.178.163 with SMTP id cz3mr30563361vdc.43.1321200825183; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:13:45 -0800 (PST) Sender: matthew.summers@liquidustech.com Received: by 10.52.165.130 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:13:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4EB4FA98.3080201@gentoo.org> <4EBD42EE.4060104@gentoo.org> <4EBEF208.5060500@gentoo.org> <201111121840.16686.vapier@gentoo.org> <4EBFBA75.3030500@gentoo.org> <1321188262-sup-4513@raeviah> <4EBFCD5D.3080807@gentoo.org> <1321194595-sup-8983@raeviah> <4EBFE727.8000903@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:13:45 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9NAC1IYyFVBjOvyWpKrMInnXqrM Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] have portage be quiet by default From: Matthew Summers To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 447cc320-e034-46d1-8333-26681dbb5624 X-Archives-Hash: ec53a735b0fde6dc75556c35e898c170 On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > this seems like a bit of a tempest in a teapot It cracks me up, this colloquialism. Please don't change this back. In theory, this should make Portage slightly more efficient since it won't be performing the simultaneous operation of spewing to a file and stdout. > considering that the change is trivial to undo. Perhaps this will entice our most excellent user base to read the man page from time to time to see what new features might crop up. Had I known this option existed I would have set it a long time ago. Although, now I am concerned that my IQ may be caused to decline since I will not be soaking up learning via the osmotic process of blankly staring at builds screaming by on my machine. For those that want to see the build output in real time, for development purposes or otherwise, it is trivial to change on a more permanent basis via EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS or on a case by case basis by adding --quiet-build=n to the command invocation. Change is hard, but this one yields some boost in efficiency and noise reduction. So cheerio. Many thanks, quantum -- Matthew W. Summers Gentoo Foundation Inc.