From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56511158089 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 05:03:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF3F32BC13E; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 05:03:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qv1-xf33.google.com (mail-qv1-xf33.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::f33]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FF4B2BC014 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2023 05:03:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qv1-xf33.google.com with SMTP id 6a1803df08f44-64c5f5d6f04so35542166d6.3 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 22:03:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1694581422; x=1695186222; darn=lists.gentoo.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=eLdb65HoG+/jhu/TIsynGd9NjvQRbKeTWhKXc2ocTTA=; b=LuWYnmsowE9RfBOE8USeNCm34MfgXbBwkS4u8WqvH7+iPLfKI2Igq8wrVghNbVK2GX xpmhVEm0IgEpl4118TobxHaenIb/ABmHBsNDiE1WWxjDDEOLCGTaiv7Nv9MFsYE021Ut 0zzCjYgDSOYOZ5BN/nFyiYlWtCge0dN+mP6zsDPQnZv4taXvPKtCRD7aG+wtOB31jcG5 PVfHG/OWRlNqfdc52qxczJJt+ul3dBonMYTqJKdi+7ZTJr3O+PpNWWYtLjAABllihDnS ufbhaWsyqgaJp+LQfdoAy5FUYxIZ7Zz1s+WLKXumIcfV1LI8RrIVR9Fne6hLqRl7r1CJ sFpA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1694581422; x=1695186222; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=eLdb65HoG+/jhu/TIsynGd9NjvQRbKeTWhKXc2ocTTA=; b=wXVjvE/kUuhjppF5oWOcc4Ryd3KSqIopO5Fe6wwM4TH9+W9qDN+wQCwbsbuvuNyaeS IR5nPO8Kt8ehjcazt8sddssu8HG70IRqvmfgrFhJ4JK56qoGezoVt8bYuana6+HLLusC k2pA5q/WIXmIewCZa5nOkhNK1VUIIHtLEH27zgkdt2zws1RglzVYnmmc8O4ugN/XoYdb 5+NK7KOL2zABOQHCJrGO5zw8Ob+F3gFyFQ8bX3juygNGAXfk26bb9LkYXmBL/Me3hNFn Y2xWgYaKND+49FUqcPKYL8R3kDuwltUDF9FHHwXEfrKhqLvDX67CDrR8Xcjm8a6fOE58 lkXQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzLZyyGtPtCl7EhhQoqh5vK8BnxcUGzdRW1wfRDK6HyIaLxmash I0d5d867BmL1gwtLt1wJ1Oq13ylszO//xcAxCuNBR7Pm X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IED7jX8G3Q04Xwu7uxhP40x3XEA8fRfXdbKogQb85shVxqlWmvCUsTt8nVk4z7aDBOjRxoHCqXBeYR8Uz0RZqA= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:cd8b:0:b0:649:980c:4eea with SMTP id v11-20020a0ccd8b000000b00649980c4eeamr1439977qvm.12.1694581421906; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 22:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a0c:de0e:0:b0:64c:95e3:9ef9 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 22:03:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5f5e1b74-5c33-7200-7b8b-6cb72f209010@gmail.com> References: <7802203.lOV4Wx5bFT@kona> <92dfbb91650e4fe9c82268ccddf8b0ab.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> <4270953.Sgy9Pd6rRy@pinacolada> <25616924cf66471fbd1075753551dffa.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> <7B549F95-5EEA-4DD3-A046-AA6F2C7B6349@gentoo.org> <5aa46e8fd2c09e8d54c6a9ec71725529.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> <5f5e1b74-5c33-7200-7b8b-6cb72f209010@gmail.com> From: Alexe Stefan Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2023 08:03:41 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 26a4cd84-6050-44cc-afc7-e3b52e709da8 X-Archives-Hash: 32b5e29cf184d50d79ed43f6ccc99813 On 9/13/23, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 9/13/23 12:35 AM, Alexe Stefan wrote: >> On 9/13/23, Matt Turner wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 5:45=E2=80=AFPM Alexe Stefan >>> wrote: >>>> Is it such a burden to make a couple of commits once in a while? >>> >>> I see no commits from your email address in gentoo.git, so that might >>> be a question for you. >>> >> >> I and plenty of others have their overlays. Should I try to get my >> ebuilds into ::gentoo? > > > That seems to be rather missing the point. Why are you going out of your > way to make a distinction between: > > - contributing ebuilds that would otherwise not be present in ::gentoo > at all > > - helping fix issues in existing ebuilds that are part of ::gentoo and > need to be kept in good working order > > Both are valid ways to demonstrate a commitment to collaboratively > improving the Gentoo project. The one you *didn't* mention is easier to > do, though, so I'd probably suggest trying that first. > I do open bugs and threads about various issues regarding packages, and propose solutions. Sometimes their gentoo maintainers agree, sometimes they don't. What else should I do? I don't have commit access. > >>>> How many commits were made in the last year to accommodate eudev? >>> >>> I'm not your monkey. >>> >>>> Regarding the bugs, what else did you expect when no news item was >>>> given? >>> >>> Right, we should have done something *else* to keep eudev going. >>> >>> Welcome to my killfile. >>> >>> >> >> Something I said in this thread struck a chord? > > > I think it's a very fair assessment to make that this thread is quite > hostile to the Gentoo Developers as a whole, and hostile behavior > towards the Gentoo Developers does indeed strike a chord. > > I am not completely sure why you find it important or desirable to > highlight the fact that you elicit strong negative emotions in others, > mind you. But I'm sure you have very good reasons for it. > > > -- > Eli Schwartz > > > I don't think I said anything about you? I do not like to see choice being taken away for no good reason, especially in regards to such a contested topic.