From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RPNIX-0003VU-LH for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:47:45 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4126D21C045; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:47:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f181.google.com (mail-gx0-f181.google.com [209.85.161.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8AC921C027 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:47:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnv2 with SMTP id v2so6588956ggn.40 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:47:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=l86WWoSIQDta8Iva6MhhJunKflhwM16j2u4HkY0uD3k=; b=T9js4P+v9auVDEWFZJU+y8ULK5brOhFKOPztmDjifw19UdB0RCpmQa6RF2vTx4ItdZ ZbN69Hit3gz9Fgex4w5bhbyEgg2SRzbgx/7ZnFCPa3+03aWXhS9Vzh7J2sId2mGQ+VMU RQi0ApVyqzCF1ccu/L8wDZWudIfx0Fima+9IU= Received: by 10.182.69.52 with SMTP id b20mr3886980obu.58.1321141633155; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:47:13 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: nirbheek.chauhan@gmail.com Received: by 10.182.150.3 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:46:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201111121840.16686.vapier@gentoo.org> References: <4EB4FA98.3080201@gentoo.org> <4EBD42EE.4060104@gentoo.org> <4EBEF208.5060500@gentoo.org> <201111121840.16686.vapier@gentoo.org> From: Nirbheek Chauhan Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 05:16:52 +0530 X-Google-Sender-Auth: GVsbU1q6wE_m8N2eBmd0oTpJ0L4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] have portage be quiet by default To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 3e2fa743-c861-4b54-8587-919aba1a6925 X-Archives-Hash: 101cecc816a076cc87e39a85abd52d9a On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 5:10 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Saturday 12 November 2011 17:24:08 Patrick Lauer wrote: >> Lots of people in #gentoo are unhappy with it. > > most changes people will be unhappy with because it's different > This is objectively true. That's why you weigh changes based on whether they yield a net gain. I don't have strong opinions about this, but from the beginning, I've thought that *always* showing verbose output in emerge wasn't really useful for general users except as a CPU-intensive screensaver. -- ~Nirbheek Chauhan Gentoo GNOME+Mozilla Team