From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ROtTq-0007WK-9j for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:57:26 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A03AD21C0D2; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:57:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-fx0-f53.google.com (mail-fx0-f53.google.com [209.85.161.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C7F21C0CD for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:56:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faan15 with SMTP id n15so4882582faa.40 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 07:56:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=hw/Crmfb43wR8EgULkqmg9JESqwTe+kIaA6ukQYKG70=; b=CcIwhz5stohqb7Y7I6fLRXm7B4QhRGuQwwXc1w5zooV8NZrhxLcQATislpwxqbGLP+ LidyROvrN/mBgWCO5DoP7ErdHvYFKfISKemIKdbsJFpx+pt9/6vFN1YrYOpsGgHF3EiJ vN5HwqPO13NVm6/X7Ut++ajaM/gvL8Upp7Q/o= Received: by 10.182.110.1 with SMTP id hw1mr2921508obb.38.1321026993177; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 07:56:33 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: nirbheek.chauhan@gmail.com Received: by 10.182.150.3 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 07:56:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20111111093229.GA3812@localhost> References: <20111111093229.GA3812@localhost> From: Nirbheek Chauhan Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:26:12 +0530 X-Google-Sender-Auth: eNnuLDsG2vdguE4OKJD9RU3HHbs Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Stop altering of current release ebuilds and propagate the changes slowly To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: scarabeus@gentoo.org, chromium@gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 541753a1-73ec-450b-b75b-690ded311cd9 X-Archives-Hash: a962f34e256cacb2d0d32ef2e6a6b78d On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Brian Harring wrote: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 08:58:14AM +0100, Tom???? Chv??tal wrote: >> Hi guys, >> >> In last 3 days i recompiled chromium 3x >> >> 1x rebuild for cups useflag >> 1x update >> 1x rebuild for cups useflag > > > > Chromium moves fast and you're obviously running unstable keywording. > Meaning you're *intentionally* getting every beta channel release. > Actually, even in the mozilla team, we try to reduce the no. of revbumps and USE-flag changes ebuilds get by batching them up. Even though Firefox (and earlier xulrunner) doesn't have the crazy release cycle of Chromium (yet), it simply helps to reduce irritation for users. We try the same with webkit-gtk/evolution/e-d-s under GNOME (although, they don't require many updates anyway). Small things like these that cost little help in keeping users happy. It's a very easy development process change. I remember a blog post by the chromium team about this too, so they are aware of user complaints. scarabeus isn't the only one. :) Also, about attack vectors on beta builds of chromium, they're too fast-moving a target with a very low target population. Excessively unlikely that someone will release malware to attack a vulnerability in version 17.x.y.z. We don't need to go ape-shit over security of alpha/beta builds. Serious bugs, of course, should be fixed. OTOH, if you're seriously concerned about personalized attacks, you should be running adblock and noscript anyway. -- ~Nirbheek Chauhan Gentoo GNOME+Mozilla Team