From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-dev+bounces-64747-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE9F1380DC for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Thu, 6 Feb 2014 06:30:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 89F3CE0CA5; Thu, 6 Feb 2014 06:30:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-f176.google.com (mail-lb0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E945E0BA2 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 6 Feb 2014 06:30:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f176.google.com with SMTP id w7so1091768lbi.21 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 22:30:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ifHWNhiJEn2iL2UWb7g92GxF1yJwmn9lwfDbl0i+b18=; b=rkn/34extXIFCzgwhN+T4rD7zw0hyfB2ppZPVotA26aVXXG1Boff+1oyVBR54jJ7Oc kyEtc1av7nKcGh2n7qRGNpMou8gmGMJGZhQdOVbii5zESIWUCccj7AQ381H2OjiVLq1H Dfh4+Fj+HLO7kYfnf/UBG0jQikL54AEUjtiFk4BZV8cVLoqMENRPE5/ThlVOZlHdGAKd +/b+e/xk6ZKu1ALvVudBjD2cGWT4eByM6U10+B3oUtuwEej3CLcs58vz+y0Vwz+k7doi uEcG4oxn/00wyk8cOgvVotpPCKKWjrdkvN1mp81QBG3cNSe148/LftybgYTQHDKIR1o1 ltUA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.170.135 with SMTP id am7mr4223241lac.23.1391668210831; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 22:30:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.170.67 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 22:30:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 00:30:10 -0600 Message-ID: <CADPrc83g_24F=Ww2D+upCTQsQb87mjnbK93D1usdyKnQ9eChYg@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Thank you From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= <caneko@gmail.com> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 4c2026cd-6ae3-462d-8eae-55fc9081d5d0 X-Archives-Hash: c8f77532946fac2f4eb3a91b59a23cea Hi. TL;DR, this is basically just a THANK YOU to the Gentoo devs, so you can go on your daily business if you don't want to read the rest of it. No biggie. I just want to say THANK YOU to all of our Gentoo developers. I've been using Gentoo since ca. 2002 (damn, that's more than a decade), and I've seen a lot of flamewars and bikeshedding on the -dev mailing list. However, you guys get the job done, and although there are some things that I would like to have sooner (or would have liked to have earlier), in the end the people working keep pushing the necessary changes so the distribution keeps going, and (if so desired) using new and interesting technologies. More importantly, the developers and the bureaucratic structures they have created don't get (too much) in the way of individual or small groups of developers pushing for progress. In general at least; there will be always someone resisting change, but in general Gentoo keeps advancing, and the council and the other bureaucratic structures don't punish people for just wanting to have more new and cool features in the distribution. I've never said Thank You to all our developers in all these years using Gentoo, but after seeing the discussion the Debian CTTE is having related to the default init they should use[1][2][3] (including bureaucratic maneuvers, dilatory tactics, legalese interpretation of their rulings, etc.), I think the time is long overdue for me to do it. Thank you for all the work you guys do and have done. Thank you for not penalize progress. Thank you for not being so rigid. Thank you for keeping the distribution moving and evolving. And finally, just thank you. >From a proud Gentoo+systemd+GNOME 3 user, thank you. Regards. [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/01/threads.html [2] https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/threads.html [3] http://lwn.net/Articles/584227/#Comments --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico