From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SrVon-0005qL-P8 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:05:38 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62C12E060F; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gh0-f181.google.com (mail-gh0-f181.google.com [209.85.160.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFDE6E0444 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:04:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghbz13 with SMTP id z13so1801464ghb.40 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 08:04:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GO5oYJl7ejT6615V+/LNf8FA2A+EezMDuimw2QpX/cY=; b=uiNn6G7MEiU28lExPTBgNFKo6jmoWwZVCUhX1EbfGQsOcu1AuVHBWfplvoY5Eq3FyE QfPjiE65tTlM8zbXECoT47v1xIIw5SSY0IEy6XrDXj1sdB5s1AkhEWughF7KmlBinx6+ z/1c/UK05ZY0qz3ivuzY4sa0TqQeome3srWrTuOzoMLCPvdsYcN4o7r1moCP3SKdnXGO nOrIsfqIh4IE1Y5JZhbNGJ+QEAo6BFql3oBlfrzkQlkqN8PSeOoQcbRa9zTW3W//Q4Ay rO2BFAwZkDudzxR2xNSSLUSOgT0GgxcMoMQppsa3kM577SIhTOQdPGvhQQdJnFcCl1gm AcEQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.66.16 with SMTP id t16mr730821ank.27.1342623873189; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 08:04:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.152.2 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 08:04:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5006B7A4.6010202@gentoo.org> References: <5005D70D.3060108@gentoo.org> <1342566449.18313.38.camel@TesterTop4> <50063368.8080106@gentoo.org> <20120718101027.55dd00fe@pomiocik.lan> <5006B7A4.6010202@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 10:04:33 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Opinion against /usr merge From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 85ecdd95-1241-4f23-81ff-31c7f557c8b0 X-Archives-Hash: 341177fcd6a1536b25d41e6a69551fe3 On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Richard Yao wrote: > On 07/18/2012 04:10 AM, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: >> On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 23:54:16 -0400 >> Richard Yao wrote: [snip] >>> The difference is simple. You put stuff into /sbin when you do not >>> want regular users to be able to select it via tab completion by >>> default. >> >> Now put that definition into my cold logic brain. > > That was meant as a joke, although the irony is that it is true. So, you are rationalizing a posteriori an original irrational decision. Understanding the bin, sbin, usr/bin , usr/sbin split: http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/busybox/2010-December/074114.html "The /bin vs /usr/bin split (and all the others) is an artifact of this, a 1970's implementation detail that got carried forward for decades by bureaucrats who never question _why_ they're doing things. It stopped making any sense before Linux was ever invented, for multiple reasons" I don't mind the merge of /bin, /usr/bin, /sbin and /usr/sbin; moreover, I want an even more radical change: /usr -> /System /home -> /Users /etc -> /Config Why should we care about ancient filesystems that didn't supported long paths, and therefore we got stuck with /usr since we didn't wanted to waste another *single* character to make it /user? Let that silly legacy stuff die. Keep symbolic links to the old directories for compatibility reasons, if you want to (modern software should not need it anyhow), and move on. Remember /usr/X11R6? We kept a /usr/X11R6 -> /usr link for years. Do you miss it? I surely not. Regards. --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico