From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6602459CAF for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2016 19:06:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E061721C134; Sat, 9 Apr 2016 19:06:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vk0-f53.google.com (mail-vk0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FF1521C12C for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2016 19:06:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vk0-f53.google.com with SMTP id e185so172059242vkb.1 for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2016 12:06:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=o4KhFybxnxdBMNzb+QDRa13l7WrjcwohXWzFH9rScDA=; b=XARPGDThiKM6Tu3R0KmGt1UrIN7viXoTJcNFRPtKr1oAhr2RiRkgOOKLXyG2b+AF4o YxKcuTwEqQNPfqo0PQ0yInWUdNJXeFQAVaJrSNQ+oHtTULVUasPTq262ujlLrIYr/aH6 HEANjaIP+K7oZW7cYYPM15XIDsCSWTpFZP8yuNgGYWrTW5cwFVh7AIKnhxgm7fgGLvBi MnALDktDHOJhfbE/qJnDJVxvV3gnwYOLv9yRP7xFz9ZK4cJ4Hgu3rQb5qXJRkyrfVxfp TA54T6MS7jdYr4t9qfNtKIT2dhuJUHEN6uvHMKaXaw++MUclnEgMXXziMqDeC0EF3izu d9DQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=o4KhFybxnxdBMNzb+QDRa13l7WrjcwohXWzFH9rScDA=; b=KcF1LOWXDulXXpfbpicTDep7ju18/+MK7Av7lm7LjhfjCEjhy1FVagwbNO+9z9joD2 Yo/0l86l5WQDVL97vpEv+jWXf/ke31Zk2rvUBJ5xObx4+GcUli7BmMn9i0Wcv2b6H5ua pICGBvuP5P1lKVllUfgq9T2Mgr3ym/IlR6n5X21JF/c2qlQ/WPJC5BLvfFUa28+AHT5Z GwjICwO9tlVU9RH+1aAXqBuv1bele8xyp74+m6RjAwLpUWxwn6G4YjxT8AUIjcbdHzL5 s14F6sJ8xSMezzuNxFC3fU8KBDPRhOBn4RLTvivk9xBUDCPzVvlepBforQELXEUURqok 4EoA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIu28zkqBdE3Is8Nhclx1uEvGzk1sUiSySjW0c3zC8AcEogNzRFLwNIRgquqAqMJagclEI15GGaaODeEg== X-Received: by 10.159.36.48 with SMTP id 45mr7540464uaq.48.1460228760825; Sat, 09 Apr 2016 12:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.109.134 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2016 12:05:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20160409183415.GA17891@waltdnes.org> References: <57087E0D.3090502@gmail.com> <20160409053230.GA16529@waltdnes.org> <20160409160938.GA17530@waltdnes.org> <20160409121825.7739c5fc@sepulchrave.remarqs> <20160409183415.GA17891@waltdnes.org> From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 14:05:41 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: usr merge To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: b25bebc9-68b6-49c9-9ef3-e3193c7bdac2 X-Archives-Hash: 324dca08a9dff6987ad03b4b602f8627 On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 1:34 PM, wrote: > On Sat, Apr 09, 2016 at 12:18:25PM -0500, =C2=BBQ=C2=AB wrote >> On Sat, 9 Apr 2016 12:09:38 -0400 >> waltdnes@waltdnes.org wrote: >> >> > On Sat, Apr 09, 2016 at 07:11:31AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote >> > >> > > It was simply a recognition that we were already in a state where >> > > booting a system without /usr mounted early can cause problems. >> > >> > For certain edge cases... yes. But they were already using >> > initramfs or merging /usr into /. I'm talking about the 95% who >> > don't really need it. >> >> Booting without /usr mounted early is something Gentoo already doesn't >> support and can't support, right? > > If you can read this post, you've got a mighty powerful imagination. > Because we all know that Gentoo can't boot, let alone send emails, from > a machine with separate /usr and no initramfs... just like I'm using > right now. Nobody said it was not possible; Q said that it was not supported, and it cannot be because, in the general case (not *YOU* specific case), someone somewhere may require something from /usr to boot. Regards. --=20 Dr. Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Profesor de Carrera Asociado C Departamento de Matem=C3=A1ticas Facultad de Ciencias Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico