From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SrYBL-0000FO-AK for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:37:03 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1AC53E050E; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:36:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f53.google.com (mail-yw0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98935E00D3 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:35:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhp26 with SMTP id 26so1995745yhp.40 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 10:35:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ut4g2c8rB6HKrWzBPD4oAmpf4g7jDqxmGURyJHgIgSg=; b=rpy4fWWSeKh5uJxelsVprZziaRaKKHiQgmuTtd4/1LsCiLGhjSLBJ0m114uC765gJz qp1R5AKTjvM27fzK6V8/p4WuiSRUJf0agz3o12qOfKivP6EiwUtEuBkHClAZcVnpyAeb PcdQRX8QNgQRjeGDmwZHk0+yrZOsp7qahrMsR6EzO+B0tvPLJBnxRd/aAGGsYvuUP9QX pWF5snkYlTU6OoP/9IncufkgfTDDFS+tgeUwgQ24mqJ1eRYz7hqPVmeUTrM7HXP5RHu1 9G5tgzz+xPytt4KaOhRtziF0KWStroIR8StMh/m6+yBYvfD6K/6t552yupCnIyvVriCq HzHg== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.173.34 with SMTP id u22mr1698841yhl.100.1342632958585; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 10:35:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.152.2 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 10:35:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120718161351.GA19044@serenity.o.westcall.spb.ru> References: <5005D70D.3060108@gentoo.org> <1342566449.18313.38.camel@TesterTop4> <50063368.8080106@gentoo.org> <20120718101027.55dd00fe@pomiocik.lan> <5006B7A4.6010202@gentoo.org> <20120718161351.GA19044@serenity.o.westcall.spb.ru> Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:35:58 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Opinion against /usr merge From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 2be751bc-5e70-467e-9345-9134e2433dd2 X-Archives-Hash: 5fdc49f05fd7844b7392ad8149da7330 On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Hobbit wrote: >> Why should we care about ancient filesystems that didn't supported >> long paths, and therefore we got stuck with /usr since we didn't >> wanted to waste another *single* character to make it /user? > > Because of it's original name: "UNIX System Resources" (usr). As William pointed out, this is just another silly rationalization done after the fact. But, just for argument's sake, lets suppose that "usr" was named like that because it was the acronym for "UNIX System Resources". *Who cares about that now?* It was 43 years ago. My cellphone is thousands of times faster than the PDP-7 Unix was originally developed for, and it has millions of times more storage. The length restrictions imposed on system directories are completely superfluous now. All the arguments for keeping /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, and /usr/sbin separated are really instances of the Chewbacca defense [1]. They just don't make any sense. If upstream projects want to move everything to one location, Gentoo should follow suit. If enough Gentoo devs (as others had argued) want to waste their efforts in maintaining this artificial and silly division between /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, and /usr/sbin, it is of course their prerogative. But it must be clear that all the rationale behind said division was invented after the fact, and (as Rob Landley said in his email [2]) maintained "for decades by bureaucrats who never question _why_ they're doing things". Regards. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewbacca_defense [2] http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/busybox/2010-December/074114.html --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico