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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 18:10:09 -0500
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Questions about SystemD and OpenRC
From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= <caneko@gmail.com>
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On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 01:44:25PM -0500, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote
>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 3:42 AM, Luca Barbato <lu_zero@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Obviously it is always fun seeing people first say "accept it or fork
>> > it", then "do not keep your fork you are wasting time" once somebody
>> > starts forking and/or working for an alternative.
>>
>> By all means, fork it. Just allow Gentoo users to use udev/systemd as
>> upstream intended. And while we are at it, don't put OpenRC in the
>> dependency list of baselayout, otherwise it gets pulled in (and
>> sysvinit with it) for all systemd users even if we don't use it at
>> all.
>
> Good idea. While we're at it, please also let's not make
> systemd/udevd/dbus/pam mandatory.
I agree. Systemd is not mandatory; dbus is not mandatory, and thanks
to your efforts udev is not mandatory, right? I don't know about PAM,
but I'm not opposed for it to not being mandatory. So lets stop making
OpenRC mandatory, and besides in a completely artificial way: nothing
really depends on functionalitty provided by OpenRC.
So let people make their OpenRC+mdev systems without systemd, and let
people make their systemd+udev systems without OpenRC. Everybody wins.
Regards.
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Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n
Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico