From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S7Npw-0001o2-IW for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:16:08 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CD96FE0BA7; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:15:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pz0-f52.google.com (mail-pz0-f52.google.com [209.85.210.52]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1E0E0A9F for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:14:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadp12 with SMTP id p12so643193dad.11 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:14:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rKR/5LmKAzVPl2Mg1aqpNkq9KI0zpvH8yssZCDFr7mY=; b=NysPzewHMuq1STvsMyCIAIb7fJ0HyDxJahGwMRPLuqmcRiWWaOY68Ab8En4vFws0+Y jdHLkyTy7fZsT5COlK9Zi6sR3QsDEI6PHDQKEe/F/Nztg8hNK6HQ4PWN1rQNL1YB/pjh 4z2oUAMklpqgmw0ROR76sjhCMcCOF4ryrsdX/UwdT55Q/QbLNX4CrBv69MnoBqJCLY14 NNXLjtOQ41q6zV1MYfAjDZPSFTXj586dMXQJLeqEgq4Hi7fhoE/1aXI7mgYrDClNd8P8 RwBY+ZpitFHCYmikt9b2XXv7LvuDOKsRn/ivLbFDJ9wx94IHq8Y7mCobrowtvphXElRy 9/RA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.216.132 with SMTP id oq4mr5424241pbc.41.1331630075345; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:14:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.197.41 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:14:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120313084306.GC1197@waltdnes.org> References: <20120311022706.GA26296@linux1> <20120313084306.GC1197@waltdnes.org> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 03:14:35 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: newsitem: unmasking udev-181 From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 795da0dc-5964-42a1-ac1a-35fbcb2f06af X-Archives-Hash: 5e5d675910f82cfa663bb1db0e3e51a3 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:43 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 09:53:25PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote > >> Perhaps a suggestion for the news item. =C2=A0I'd recommend that anybody >> who needs an initramfs to mount /usr get that working BEFORE they >> upgrade udev. =C2=A0This situation is a heck of a lot easier to figure o= ut >> if the system still can be booted when the initramfs doesn't work. > > =C2=A0Question... does it have to be an initramfs, or can the vast majori= ty > of simple cases be handled by a simple initscript in /bin or /sbin that > mounts /usr, and does whatever else is required, before handing off > control to /sbin/init. > > =C2=A0I've migrated to mdev, so I won't be seeing this problem, but a sim= ple > solution that works for 95% of users might be the way to go. =C2=A0For th= e > more complex situations, an initramfs will be necessary. The devs are already discussing moving /bin/* to /usr/bin/* (if I understood correctly), so this will not last. And besides, genkernel and dracut are automatized; they *are* the simple (and proper, IMHO) solution. Regards. --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico