From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SpsAS-0001rG-Bb for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 02:33:12 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 99136E0653; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 02:32:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.213.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E74E0525 for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 02:32:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl3 with SMTP id l3so4578635yen.40 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 19:32:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ln0tJN5LY+OvYWsrgwdnAQLHBovZJ37tcYkjt7CkkFQ=; b=LskBop2neHbe6EBa7mz2w4sJu+CixD2MgRiwrkOk0whfwFayH5IBFa2xgCJiwp1JSj p+NYDzYh478XSvbAam4LLlHURK/iiBHgxeFU+ygUpsqS26Q36tlpf3Hgx1osX6XKT7V4 rVnErOABNnYXw39WdiLucEmfBOjfjYQm/hHinyKYyno2erRkux8LuG+9aq0DACPYsV9h pdQMSIdMcE1w095nim9uP4V2CPUmX7UwGmDgRGrMtKaBpZNBkhBuj/Xqzfz26j2EHCG1 mj5b9z5sngcvQdvXKIkxHLao4mOSJjyEpDHQ2/czMcCt99fN2gEdZIAeyUsjv1WTP0O+ EHQw== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.46.226 with SMTP id r62mr3120306yhb.98.1342233140682; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 19:32:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.152.2 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 19:32:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20120712034036.GA2439@waltdnes.org> <4FFED31D.9010505@gentoo.org> <20120712200741.GB3723@waltdnes.org> <20120712222931.GA3044@linux1> <20120713200449.GA6292@waltdnes.org> <50008143.3050708@gentoo.org> <20120714001343.GA6879@waltdnes.org> <20120714012207.GB6930@waltdnes.org> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 21:32:20 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 2a89ca75-3b46-4344-bfa2-24502b27b670 X-Archives-Hash: d033fca1267fd785ef2ff5fc508f8198 On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Walter Dnes wrot= e: >> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 03:41:36AM +0300, Maxim Kammerer wrote >>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Walter Dnes wr= ote: >>> > Do you realize this would effectively kill linux in the embedded >>> > device area? Udev, even without the systemd code, is simply to large >>> > for embedded devices. >>> >>> What's ?too large?? Udev already looks pretty small to me (116k udevd, >>> 50k libudev, 500k resident memory), and I didn't even try compiling it >>> with all extra features switched off. If that's too large for an >>> embedded device, does that device really need (or can handle) anything >>> more than devtmpfs? >> >> What does "equery depgraph" show for udev? Since I don't have udev >> installed, I can't check it here. [snip] > sys-fs/udev-186: > [ 0] sys-fs/udev-186 > [ 1] dev-libs/glib-2.30.3 > [ 1] dev-libs/gobject-introspection-1.30.0-r2 > [ 1] sys-libs/libselinux-2.1.9-r1 > [ 1] sys-apps/kmod-9999 > [ 1] sys-apps/util-linux-2.20.1-r2 > [ 1] dev-util/gperf-3.0.4 > [ 1] dev-util/intltool-0.50.2 > [ 1] virtual/pkgconfig-0 > [ 1] virtual/os-headers-0 > [ 1] dev-util/gtk-doc-1.18-r1 > [ 1] sys-devel/automake-1.11.1 > [ 1] sys-devel/automake-1.12.1 > [ 1] sys-devel/autoconf-2.68 > [ 1] sys-devel/libtool-2.4-r1 > [ 1] sys-apps/hwids-99999999 > [ 1] sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-9999 A lot of that is optional. The only hard dependencies are: >=3Dsys-apps/kmod-5 >=3Dsys-apps/util-linux-2.20 dev-util/gperf >=3Ddev-util/intltool-0.40.0 virtual/pkgconfig virtual/os-headers Everything else is optional. I repeat: the idea that udev is somewhat "bloated" or "fat" is really incorrect. Regards. --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico