From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B421D139694 for ; Fri, 5 May 2017 19:14:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5179121C097; Fri, 5 May 2017 19:13:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wm0-x22d.google.com (mail-wm0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2A20E082D for ; Fri, 5 May 2017 19:13:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id b84so1718473wmh.0 for ; Fri, 05 May 2017 12:13:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=wkXOegnPb0z9ouRaZZWEiPfZ9H265tPDMtu63m9Tlhs=; b=r3Z0dM8cjMoI4tqAUsUK0+gKjaNRFPRjWopNYsbYGGftOgWdYlz5NngKb4Yk/Jx/sk bk+Z9QSWREbuFzSrgjAb9lwWl0QfwxF+FOnZYOX95LDfm6zLxpbACP511vDeJ55joG6x ElHW1RAqWAvwH9oi6Xh6zyixKxIz5sLkjGhc9KEoLpGgIeppw7E3ZLkOrKNS818y/lSn ilo2z9rdVQQS6BfkuMwUAsVZFnwvLQYQPbEVCKTO1qAUYQMJKE82CgQYIt372ge1HEZt MJhZ/Zd5SfW8u3xZAfwrscKsOUm30F2pWoCwk3RwgNhQjgSM6kWdPrYudMdB+a6HgxB6 9Ylw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=wkXOegnPb0z9ouRaZZWEiPfZ9H265tPDMtu63m9Tlhs=; b=tZLLQ9qwfsMDu0FkfnAJWVHl6gKrmF97SzGV2PzPTSA5g2U2VOrEqQLI85Z0TPrxHW l0trnAzNQOsxCbfQOuOLOUpCt5lL2LG+n5lHhwdqNhxdPr+xyGbQ2/eVInjjhBlFhIv8 q/S4nOXlqKYRU1RwSbUSuhCM58RN2DSBqxbVfJgHoz4w05LEjt1ovtOBRPL/FxDDH7zc ymset1K1YGZi51Zxk1PGLwjNX2YC3NCzvs8Y7Ro+gdDaVxLr/zzEQsMulI5cIHzJQ9uR uvYmthe7y0juncrfEzxj93bIAVfWpJJmPF1HyUkLlfbpociA/xSUt/g8/k4uNnzlcp6/ bb5Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcAnxSf8Ru1Llry6zLtg7tEb/2c3sT+TdmKyEcYuqNtv1nOwmw4F cVps878vCDO12TQ0EwFlaN2j+aojCcgT X-Received: by 10.28.56.5 with SMTP id f5mr6465758wma.106.1494011619422; Fri, 05 May 2017 12:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.229.138 with HTTP; Fri, 5 May 2017 12:13:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.229.138 with HTTP; Fri, 5 May 2017 12:13:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20170505153543.GA2377@linux1> <1494003341.2028.6.camel@gentoo.org> <20170505143117.13b54da3@o-sinc.com> From: =?UTF-8?B?RXJpayBOw6Ryc3Ryw7Zt?= Date: Fri, 5 May 2017 19:13:38 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] OT Copyright -> meson.eclass third draft To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114cd8ceddbbeb054ecbafcb X-Archives-Salt: a0c19226-95af-44e3-bcd9-aed8de5c3093 X-Archives-Hash: 86a74cd20b64c78f4a5cf930b4f0e773 --001a114cd8ceddbbeb054ecbafcb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'am far from a legal scholar, i do know that one of the main driver behind extending the copyright to death of author +70yrs was so Disney would continue to control miky mouse, or atlest tahat is the folk lore on the topic. So that make it seem like even if gentoo owns the material they only do so until 70yrs after the author deaths. Mening year of writing is surpluses, atlest considring us copyright. /EKG ps. Please tell me if I only generate noise. On 5 May 2017 20:39, "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > On Fri, 5 May 2017 14:31:17 -0400 > "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > > > On Fri, 5 May 2017 18:20:43 +0000 > > Erik N=C3=A4rstr=C3=B6m wrote: > > > > > I'snt copyright deth of author +70yrs? > > > > Yes for work that is copyright to say you or me. Something copyright > > to an immortal entity I believe is different. Even if Gentoo ended, > > not sure that is the same as a person dying. We essential give up our > > copyright when you put Gentoo's copyright on there. I think it would > > have to include a persons name for the death term to apply. > > > > I believe 95-120 years is the duration. > > https://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ15a.pdf > > > > That is for the United States, not the world. Seems most others go with > the author aspect. But I am not sure how that carries over to entities. > At least in the US, this stuff that is copyright Gentoo is bound to > those terms. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_term > > OT.... > Corporate personhood is one of the most contentious things in the US. > IMHO it was the reason for the civil war not slavery etc. If it was > slavery no need for civil rights. It was about coporate personhood. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood > > This amendment, super abstract. Not sure software exists this abstract > in nature.... > > "As a matter of interpretation of the word "person" in the Fourteenth > Amendment, U.S. courts have extended certain constitutional protections > to corporations. " > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_ > United_States_Constitution > > > > > -- > William L. Thomson Jr. > --001a114cd8ceddbbeb054ecbafcb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'am far from a legal scholar, i do know that one of = the main driver behind extending the copyright to death of author +70yrs wa= s so Disney would continue to control miky mouse, or atlest tahat is the fo= lk lore on the topic. So that make it seem like even if gentoo owns the mat= erial they only do so until 70yrs after the author deaths. Mening year of w= riting is surpluses, atlest considring us copyright.=C2=A0

/EKG

ps. Please tell me if I only generate noise.=C2=A0

On 5 May 2017 20:39,= "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt-ml@o-sinc.com> wrote:
On Fri, 5 May 2017 14:31:17 -0400
"William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt-ml@o-sinc.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 5 May 2017 18:20:43 +0000
> Erik N=C3=A4rstr=C3=B6m <erik.narstrom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'snt copyright deth of author +70yrs?
>
> Yes for work that is copyright to say you or me. Something copyright > to an immortal entity I believe is different. Even if Gentoo ended, > not sure that is the same as a person dying. We essential give up our<= br> > copyright when you put Gentoo's copyright on there. I think it wou= ld
> have to include a persons name for the death term to apply.
>
> I believe 95-120 years is the duration.
> https://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ15a.pdf=
>

That is for the United States, not the world. Seems most others go with
the author aspect. But I am not sure how that carries over to entities.
At least in the US, this stuff that is copyright Gentoo is bound to
those terms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_term
OT....
Corporate personhood is one of the most contentious things in the US.
IMHO it was the reason for the civil war not slavery etc. If it was
slavery no need for civil rights. It was about coporate personhood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_perso= nhood

This amendment, super abstract. Not sure software exists this abstract
in nature....

"As a matter of interpretation of the word "person" in the F= ourteenth
Amendment, U.S. courts have extended certain constitutional protections
to corporations. "
https://en.wikip= edia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitut= ion




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