From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-dev+bounces-59772-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D2C1381F3 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 13:55:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8EDA1E0A5C; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 13:55:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ia0-f171.google.com (mail-ia0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2A11E0A43 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 13:55:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f171.google.com with SMTP id f27so5420613iae.30 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 06:55:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=3KUi/NMRc4pM+EwGIaGl8+O8wzeQXlZae5+qcORVXoM=; b=lkbk00D7cW0QDbcY4fq9ZPN4fKRQ4EgOmXTESwHuHBdseoXWvz02gC/JEGZ5H7XeUZ T/+jWvbeu68ayaiNSnAk5KbK7hqfIxpes9ADle0m1gSBJ3s72yOVXmAFLTi9jXQ43Ad0 RMmYHzDdfbXGOi+DuJ/FhM3Y70yxqsQt/RrRBzQqhl/YAChJg5D7cws7raoLR7wQucaw zktiF6VRMkAxhkWGezS1lMvnCHwh/sIb5YYWtCdflLEcJI/5uXXFbqEeZxEW9PGflU9/ K+lurz9SXv1XPQWbfLl98qj0ZTIEV4E8gDIX2wEbDc5WzppAG1fvSdNVMVzED4SNodLq KIng== Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.65.105 with SMTP id w9mr8370622igs.87.1366638901891; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 06:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Sender: yngwin@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.30.234 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 06:55:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130422155108.055f5bca@portable> References: <20130421214304.7b08fa57@pomiocik.lan> <CAB9SyzQwVCOyOdYs7q82ZcguKwwJrEW4ja_bZ1svUF9eEp5iuQ@mail.gmail.com> <20130422155108.055f5bca@portable> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:55:01 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: NVrqzQRaeE_xv_I6gaSeuY51WQE Message-ID: <CAB9SyzTvb5P3vKhD_VBJ5nJ83wuc9yYXB9xrw8jkUSLDuUWZCQ@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: emul-linux-x86-xlibs deps being replaced in gx86 From: Ben de Groot <yngwin@gentoo.org> To: Alexis Ballier <aballier@gentoo.org> Cc: gentoo-dev <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>, multilib@gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3a989448e61f04daf36aed X-Archives-Salt: 07b81805-c8d3-4499-9476-a0b975810c44 X-Archives-Hash: f53b5aababde58fbd2b596d9d0478ec7 --047d7b3a989448e61f04daf36aed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 22 April 2013 21:51, Alexis Ballier <aballier@gentoo.org> wrote: > On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:21:55 +0800 > Ben de Groot <yngwin@gentoo.org> wrote: > > It should come as no surprise that I am not happy with this. While I > > applaud your efforts to attempt to improve the multilib situation, I > > don't think we are quite at the stage yet where this can be pushed as > > the default choice, as you are doing now. > > > > In my opinion this belongs in an overlay for further development and > > much more extensive testing. You are now pushing this to ebuilds that > > may very well go stable within weeks =E2=80=94 unless I'm missing somet= hing > > and you are masking these features / useflags on stable. > > It is not default unless abi_x86_32 & friends are enabled; old > behavior is preserved until these flag are default in multilib profiles. > It is also not stable until the multilib deps are stable, which is > independent of packages having the || dep being stable. If there is a > need then useflags can be masked on stable also so that, again, > behavior remains the same on stable. > > Alexis. > Alright, that wasn't immediately obvious. That does make these changes more acceptable. --=20 Cheers, Ben | yngwin Gentoo developer Gentoo Qt project lead, Gentoo Wiki admin --047d7b3a989448e61f04daf36aed Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 2= 2 April 2013 21:51, Alexis Ballier <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:= aballier@gentoo.org" target=3D"_blank">aballier@gentoo.org</a>></span> w= rote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:21:= 55 +0800<br> Ben de Groot <<a href=3D"mailto:yngwin@gentoo.org">yngwin@gentoo.org</a>= > wrote:<br> > It should come as no surprise that I am not happy with this. While I<b= r> > applaud your efforts to attempt to improve the multilib situation, I<b= r> > don't think we are quite at the stage yet where this can be pushed= as<br> > the default choice, as you are doing now.<br> ><br> > In my opinion this belongs in an overlay for further development and<b= r> > much more extensive testing. You are now pushing this to ebuilds that<= br> > may very well go stable within weeks =E2=80=94 unless I'm missing = something<br> > and you are masking these features / useflags on stable.<br> <br> </div>It is not default unless abi_x86_32 & friends are enabled; old<br= > behavior is preserved until these flag are default in multilib profiles.<br= > It is also not stable until the multilib deps are stable, which is<br> independent of packages having the || dep being stable. If there is a<br> need then useflags can be masked on stable also so that, again,<br> behavior remains the same on stable.<br> <span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br> Alexis.<br> </font></span></blockquote></div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Alrig= ht, that wasn't immediately obvious. That does make these changes more = acceptable.<br clear=3D"all"></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>-- <br>Ch= eers,<br> <br>Ben | yngwin<br>Gentoo developer<br>Gentoo Qt project lead, Gentoo Wiki= admin </div></div> --047d7b3a989448e61f04daf36aed--